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  1.    07 Jul 2015 #1
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    Win7

    Win10 10130 & 10162 won't Install


    Hi... tried the last two Win10 pre-releases... 32bit... downloaded the ISOs, burned to DVDs, and ran install:

    1. On an ATOM processor... NETBOOK
    2. On an AMD processor... full LAPTOP

    ONCE, the NETBOOK got to the point of "just after" "Let's Get Connected" and the little clock-wise rotation went for almost an hour. The LAPTOP gets hung at the same spot (all the time).

    The other 3-4 times (trying the NETBOOK) the install would display anything... just the CD-drive lights going on/off.

    I'm unsure if these last releases are ATOM-capable or not... but the AMD is an actual laptop that came with Win7 loaded... but, of course, after several tries... I've now wiped the hard drive and working on CLEAN installs.

    Anyone know what's going on?? And/or... what I can do next. In case you missed... I'm installing as 32-bit...

    Thanks in advance,
    Steve
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  2.    07 Jul 2015 #2
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    Win 10 preview 10074

    Do your machines meet the minimum system requirements?
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windo...specifications
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  3.    08 Jul 2015 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryBumkin View Post
    Do your machines meet the minimum system requirements?
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windo...specifications
    Both SEEM to meet the minimum requirements... not smart enough about the display adapters; the ATOM has an "Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 3150", the AMD an "AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics".

    What I can say is... The ATOM came with Win7 Starter and I've re-installed Win7 Ultimate on it... plan on trying to install Win8 & Win8.1 on it later this afternoon... I've already installed Win7 Ultimate, Win8 Pro & just finished installed Win8.1 Pro on the AMD. ALL were CLEAN installs... used BOTH x86 & x64 versions.

    Win10 (NON-installs) were x86... cutting an x64 Win10 bld 10162 right now for the AMD...

    Any ideas??
    Steve
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  4.    08 Jul 2015 #4
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    Win 10 preview 10074

    If you can run Win7 Ultimate or Win8 on your machines, then Win10 should install. The laptop meets the requirements - I don't know about the Atom (didn't look up specs). Win10 requires at least Win7 SP1 to do the automatic update/install but I don't think that would matter if your doing a clean install.

    Make sure the Atom is "64-bit capable" before trying to install Win10 x64 (if your not sure, perhaps play it safe and install the Win10 x86 version).
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  5.    08 Jul 2015 #5
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    Hey Country... Really you appreciate your thoughts, advice, etc... just HATE when I can't solve my own problems... ugh.

    The NETBOOK (atom cpu) is ONLY 32-bit; the AMD 64-bit CPU... which is why I started with x86... figured I could install both machines at same time. Both machines meet the minimum requirements but I can't confirm the minimum display... the AMD adapter is an "AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics"... the ATOM's display is an "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150". Since the AMD CAME with Win7-installed... I suspect that's workable... not sure about the ATOM, since it was XP-installed... but Win7/SP1 loaded on both... Win8/Win8.1 on the AMD. Also, Win10 still shows a GREAT SCREEN (circling and "Wait a Moment) when it stops doing anything.

    Spent several hours today trying to load Win10/10162 on the AMD... 2-3 tries as x86; last 2 as x64. Playbook reads... booted from a DVD, got window to choose Install (I did CUSTOM and DELETE my USER partition), set date/time, entered Win10 PRO key, it loaded the next 6-7 list (installing files, etc), and got down to me selecting my WiFi... NO PROBLEM. Next step, regardless of selecting CUSTOMIZE SETTINGS or "select default" (forgot actual button)... it just went into a rotating circle saying "Wait a Moment" underneath... let it sit and sit... last time over 2 hours. JUST CANNOT GET PAST THAT POINT.

    Funny tho, as you already pointed out, loaded Win7/SP1 Ultimate on both... and Win8 and Win8.1 on the AMD... NO PROBLEMS???

    I don't understand... so I'm lost!
    Steve
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  6.    08 Jul 2015 #6
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    Country...

    Looks like you're in FLA?? Weeki Wachee here... hour north of Tampa

    Steve
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  7.    09 Jul 2015 #7
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    Windows 10

    Not sure about your laptop, but I've tried W10 on my netbook, and it worked - very, very slowly. You'd be much better off with a lighter weight Linux distro like Mint with MATE or XFCE desktop.
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  8.    10 Jul 2015 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek50 View Post
    Hi... tried the last two Win10 pre-releases... 32bit... downloaded the ISOs, burned to DVDs, and ran install:

    1. On an ATOM processor... NETBOOK
    2. On an AMD processor... full LAPTOP

    ONCE, the NETBOOK got to the point of "just after" "Let's Get Connected" and the little clock-wise rotation went for almost an hour. The LAPTOP gets hung at the same spot (all the time).

    The other 3-4 times (trying the NETBOOK) the install would display anything... just the CD-drive lights going on/off.

    I'm unsure if these last releases are ATOM-capable or not... but the AMD is an actual laptop that came with Win7 loaded... but, of course, after several tries... I've now wiped the hard drive and working on CLEAN installs.

    Anyone know what's going on?? And/or... what I can do next. In case you missed... I'm installing as 32-bit...

    Thanks in advance,
    Steve
    I did a clean install 10.0.162 today using the Insiders Preview ISO (not an ESD-to-ISO).

    I fired it up at 10:00 AM before leaving to help my daughter move in to her new house, when I got home at 9::00 PM, the progress circle was still spinning telling me "Just a moment ...". Methinks I have a different definition of a moment than MS ... 11 hours is not a moment, it's half a day Anyway, I long pressed the power button to shut down the machine and restarted it after waiting a few minutes.

    The Install started up again and told me that it wouldn't take long to install the apps ... Sure I thought ...

    It finished in about ten minutes - not long at all.

    I think this happens when the install is updating drivers - not sure though. The good news is that 10.0.162 is the first release to set up my external monitor (driven by the same 6520G card as yours). The driver has glyphs in some of the reports, but it works as well as AMD drivers have in the past on Win7 or Win8.

    Side note: When I uninstalled CCC, the system 'hung' - a three finger salute to sign-out an sign-in again cleared that up.

    There might be an issue with System Reserve if it's only 100 MB. A few members had issue, including me on a various previous releases, I recommended increasing the System Reserve to 450 MB.

    I was doing some other Disk Management work when I noticed that 10.0.162 used more than 100 MB of the System Reserve. I don't recall this in previous releases but I might not have paid close enough attention. I also don't know if the install will use more space if it is available.

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    If you need help on stealing 350 MB from another partition and adding it to System Reserve, post a call for help. Lots of member can help you, if I'm not available.

    Anyway, try the cold start first.
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  9.    10 Jul 2015 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek50 View Post
    Country...

    Looks like you're in FLA?? Weeki Wachee here... hour north of Tampa
    Steve
    I'm in the land of the big Mouse.
    I hope you are making progress with your install. I did a clean install with 10130 (the prior release locked up my machine) but the last two updates to 10162 and 10166 went fine. Maybe 2 hours is not enough time - as Slartybart said. Perhaps let it run overnight.
    Good luck
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  10.    11 Jul 2015 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryBumkin View Post
    I'm in the land of the big Mouse.
    I hope you are making progress with your install. I did a clean install with 10130 (the prior release locked up my machine) but the last two updates to 10162 and 10166 went fine. Maybe 2 hours is not enough time - as Slartybart said. Perhaps let it run overnight.
    Good luck
    Overnight might give it enough time, but I think it's hung and only a hard stop then restart gets you past the hang. A few hours is more than sufficient time to wait

    MS has to fix this soon, the issue has been around for a number of releases - different machines, different devices ...

    They're working very hard to get this done for the 29 July date. Insiders will get the updates first (per a blog or tweet by Gabe Aul) - then other devices (users) will get updated in waves.


    I too hope Steve has better luck with the install.

    Bill
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