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  1.    05 Mar 2017 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    I would just use the Media Creation Tool to make a fresh USB flash drive for you, Option 1 here:
    USB Flash Drive - Create to Install Windows 10

    Your DVD is likely to be outdated.

    UEFI does not matter, boot from the USB flash drive and you can still select the custom install option, wipe partitions off the drive, and install to the unallocated space. In fact, if the drive was previously used in a legacy BIOS computer, this is the easiest way to convert the drive to GPT partitioning to work in a UEFI computer.
    I ended up ordering the 960 Evo M.2 for my OS so will be brand new drive to install OS onto.
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  2.    05 Mar 2017 #12
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    Hey there CW

    If you do go with the 960 Pro or EVO M.2 drive.......it has the windows native driver so you can install the OS, however, once you have Windows installed you should install the Samsung Driver for the M.2 or you will not get the full benefit from the drive. You will find the driver listed on the Samsung Support site.

    You will also need to make some changes in the BIOS most likely for Windows to see the 960 to begin with.....I can tell you the changes for most of the ASUS boards such as mine but have not looked at any for your prospective board......
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  3.    05 Mar 2017 #13
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    I didn`t see a GPU in your list, what do you plan to get ? It may be a good idea to wait for the 1080 Ti, but it may be awhile before retailers get it in stock.

    You may as well get the best, I recommend EVGA. But unless you`re a big time gamer a 1070 or 1080 would be more then adequate.

    EVGA - Intelligent Innovation - Official Website

    You might want to consider getting a 1000 P2, they lowered the price, but if you think an 850 is enough, that`s fine too.

    EVGA - Products - EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 Power Supply - 220-P2-1000-XR

    Or even the 850 P2 over the G3. It`s only $10 more.

    EVGA - Products - EVGA SuperNOVA 850 P2 Power Supply - 220-P2-0850-X1
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  4.    06 Mar 2017 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by kipper View Post
    Hey there CW

    If you do go with the 960 Pro or EVO M.2 drive.......it has the windows native driver so you can install the OS, however, once you have Windows installed you should install the Samsung Driver for the M.2 or you will not get the full benefit from the drive. You will find the driver listed on the Samsung Support site.

    You will also need to make some changes in the BIOS most likely for Windows to see the 960 to begin with.....I can tell you the changes for most of the ASUS boards such as mine but have not looked at any for your prospective board......

    I did end up going with the M.2 drive. Thanks for the tip on installing the Samsung drive post install of OS.

    The board I have is a MSI....not sure if your changes would be the same or at least similar to mine but maybe you can share just in case. I'm sure I will have to fuss with BIOS at some point.
    Quote Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
    I didn`t see a GPU in your list, what do you plan to get ? It may be a good idea to wait for the 1080 Ti, but it may be awhile before retailers get it in stock.

    You may as well get the best, I recommend EVGA. But unless you`re a big time gamer a 1070 or 1080 would be more then adequate.

    EVGA - Intelligent Innovation - Official Website

    You might want to consider getting a 1000 P2, they lowered the price, but if you think an 850 is enough, that`s fine too.

    EVGA - Products - EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 Power Supply - 220-P2-1000-XR

    Or even the 850 P2 over the G3. It`s only $10 more.

    EVGA - Products - EVGA SuperNOVA 850 P2 Power Supply - 220-P2-0850-X1
    I am actually getting an EVGA 1080 FTW ACX 3.0, I'm ready to get this going so I don't want to wait any longer, plus it's already on order

    I was deciding between the 850 and the 1000, now that I think about it I should probably cancel the 850 and get the 1000 as a just in case but I think with the components I have/am getting I should be okay with an 850? I thought the G3 was their newest model of their SuperNOVA line but I guess I was wrong. What are the major differences between the G3 and P2? Currently I have a 850 G3 on order but can always cancel and get something else. Let me know and thanks for all your help!
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  5.    06 Mar 2017 #15
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    OK CW

    Here are the steps for doing this on an ASUS board.......you can use them and you will find the same settings on your board but they might have a little different terminology.........just take your time and you should be fine....

    1 - Make sure you unplug all SATA and USB drives, the M.2 drive has to be the only drive installed.

    2 - Go into the bios, under the boot tab there is an option for CSM, make sure it is disabled.

    3 - Click on secure boot option below and make sure it is set to other OS, Not windows UEFI.

    4 - Click on key management and clear secure boot keys.

    5 - Insert a USB memory stick with a UEFI bootable iso of Windows 10 on it, USB3 is quicker but USB2 works also. A Windows DVD won’t work unless you’ve created your own UEFI Bootable DVD.

    6 - Press F10 to save, exit and reboot.

    7 - Windows will now start installing to your NVME drive as it has its own NVME driver built in, I don't think this would work with previous versions.

    8 - When the PC reboots hit F2 to go back into the BIOS, you will see under boot priority that windows boot manager now lists your NVME drive.

    9 - Click on secure boot again but now set it to WIndows UEFI mode.

    10 - Click on key management and install default secure boot keys

    11 - Press F10 to save and exit and windows will finish the install.

    Once you have Windows up and running, shutdown the PC and reconnect your other SATA drives. Do not put anything on SATA port 1 as this is now reserved for the NVME drive.

    I would also recommend installing the Samsung NVME driver at this point to replace the Windows one.

    The background here is NVME SSDs do not appear within the BIOS until Windows creates the system partition with the EFI Boot Sector.

    Your M.2 SSD contains UEFI driver information within the firmware. By disabling the CSM module Windows will read and utilize the M.2-specific UEFI driver.
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  6.    06 Mar 2017 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by kipper View Post
    OK CW

    Here are the steps for doing this on an ASUS board.......you can use them and you will find the same settings on your board but they might have a little different terminology.........just take your time and you should be fine....

    1 - Make sure you unplug all SATA and USB drives, the M.2 drive has to be the only drive installed.

    2 - Go into the bios, under the boot tab there is an option for CSM, make sure it is disabled.

    3 - Click on secure boot option below and make sure it is set to other OS, Not windows UEFI.

    4 - Click on key management and clear secure boot keys.

    5 - Insert a USB memory stick with a UEFI bootable iso of Windows 10 on it, USB3 is quicker but USB2 works also. A Windows DVD won’t work unless you’ve created your own UEFI Bootable DVD.

    6 - Press F10 to save, exit and reboot.

    7 - Windows will now start installing to your NVME drive as it has its own NVME driver built in, I don't think this would work with previous versions.

    8 - When the PC reboots hit F2 to go back into the BIOS, you will see under boot priority that windows boot manager now lists your NVME drive.

    9 - Click on secure boot again but now set it to WIndows UEFI mode.

    10 - Click on key management and install default secure boot keys

    11 - Press F10 to save and exit and windows will finish the install.

    Once you have Windows up and running, shutdown the PC and reconnect your other SATA drives. Do not put anything on SATA port 1 as this is now reserved for the NVME drive.

    I would also recommend installing the Samsung NVME driver at this point to replace the Windows one.

    The background here is NVME SSDs do not appear within the BIOS until Windows creates the system partition with the EFI Boot Sector.

    Your M.2 SSD contains UEFI driver information within the firmware. By disabling the CSM module Windows will read and utilize the M.2-specific UEFI driver.
    Thank you for this awesome info. This will prove to be very helpful. Much appreciated!!
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  7.    06 Mar 2017 #17
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    You are more than welcome......
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  8.    06 Mar 2017 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
    I didn`t see a GPU in your list, what do you plan to get ? It may be a good idea to wait for the 1080 Ti, but it may be awhile before retailers get it in stock.

    You may as well get the best, I recommend EVGA. But unless you`re a big time gamer a 1070 or 1080 would be more then adequate.

    EVGA - Intelligent Innovation - Official Website

    You might want to consider getting a 1000 P2, they lowered the price, but if you think an 850 is enough, that`s fine too.

    EVGA - Products - EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 Power Supply - 220-P2-1000-XR

    Or even the 850 P2 over the G3. It`s only $10 more.

    EVGA - Products - EVGA SuperNOVA 850 P2 Power Supply - 220-P2-0850-X1
    I know I quoted you in earlier post but I am curious why you think a 850 would not be enough with this build. I don't envision using a 2nd GPU in this system and it's not like I have a massive amount of HDDs spinning or anything else that might suck a lot of power outside of the 1 1080. I will happily return the 850 and get a 1000 if folks feel it is necessary for my build but I think an 850 is fine, please correct me if I am wrong? I understand the P2 is the Platinum rated SuperNOVA....my computer isn't on 24/7 and by my calculation Platinum may only save me an additional $3-6/year. I'm okay with the Gold rated.
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  9.    06 Mar 2017 #19
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    I don't want to speak for AddRAM but....

    I believe he was just pointing out that if you did consider a new PSU that the prices were decent on the ones mentioned......

    Your current 850 should prove more than sufficient for you build but if it is getting old you might want to consider a new one......IMHO the PSU is the most important component in any build......without pure clean regulated power your other components will leave the scene earlier than they should.......
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  10.    06 Mar 2017 #20
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    A problem using USB 3.0 ports on many computers is there is no support for them in the BIOS [maybe in some of the very newest] until the Operating System is up and running. No problem with booting to a USB 2.0 Thumb drive but some need to retain the FAT32 formatting when creating such a drive. I've done them using the choice in Media Creation Tool, both 64-bit and 32-bit. Latest I did a couple of days ago was Version 1607 Build 14393.442, didn't take long to update to 14393.693.
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