Windows 10: Windows 7 inplace install 10 vs ?

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
  1.    05 Jul 2015 #1

    Windows 7 inplace install 10 vs ?


    Likely a few months before 10 starts shipping with new machines I need a new laptop. I might be able to plead desperation with my wife and continue to use her laptop until Lenovo starts shipping 10. Even that's not such a hot idea since it could be 3 or 4 months instead of 2.

    Ordering a new laptop. The problem is doing an in place upgrade after having used the machine for some period of time vs. a 10 clean install. Although the clean install would be preferable that would mean doing so twice within ~6 months or so and I'm not a masochist.

    So my alternatives (that I can see) are:

    1. Order the machine with Win7 on the primary SSD, do the in place upgrade to 10 whenever and get over 10 not being a clean install.

    2. Wait the indeterminate # of months until Lenovo ships 10 and continue borrowing my wife's laptop (maybe?).

    3. Since I will order the laptop with an SSD primary drive and a SATA drive in the DVD bay, I might be able to have Lenovo put the OS on the SATA drive and later install 10 on the SSD drive calling it the primary and erasing 7 from the SATA drive.

    I may be making a mountain out of a mole hill here and if so you'll say so and that's good too.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  2.    05 Jul 2015 #2

    Why not just buy one with Windows 8.1 on it? 8.1 also qualifies for the free upgrade. Some laptops do have dual drive bays. You'll pay a bit more for one that does, but they are out there. My ASUS K75DE has two drive bays and an optical drive. I run two SSD's in it. You could always do the factory recovery and restore it to the out of the box state just before you do the upgrade to 10. I would make your recovery media before hand too, just in case.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  3. Posts : 271
    w7 pro - ( Server 2012 build 9200 ) - Server 2016 - Mint 18.2
       05 Jul 2015 #3

    Depends on what you are comfortable with.

    Doing a clean install only takes 10 minutes.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  4.    05 Jul 2015 #4

    I do clean installs all the time. Even from a USB thumb drive to an SSD its more than 10 minutes. For me it is anyway. More like 20 minutes plus if you ask me.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  5. Posts : 271
    w7 pro - ( Server 2012 build 9200 ) - Server 2016 - Mint 18.2
       05 Jul 2015 #5

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I do clean installs all the time. Even from a USB thumb drive to an SSD its more than 10 minutes. For me it is anyway. More like 20 minutes plus if you ask me.
    I was being generous. Depends on hardware, CPU etc ...
    From USB boot ISO to default desktop / start screen (talking about build 9200),
    can take 7 minutes.

    WINDOWS 10 takes longer. Windows 10 on a dual core 4GB laptop could take 30 minutes to do a CI.
    Imagine it might take 60 minutes using DVD drives on dated tech.
    8.1 CI's on a Surface Pro 3 in about 10 - 15 minutes.

    Doing an in-place upgrade will take longer.
    Going thru all the hoops that 10 requires adds time to the CI.
    Last edited by nt62; 05 Jul 2015 at 18:17.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  6. Posts : 267
    Windows 10 & Windows 10 Insider Program, Linux Mint 18.2, feren OS, LinuxLite, Peppermint 8
       05 Jul 2015 #6

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Why not just buy one with Windows 8.1 on it? 8.1 also qualifies for the free upgrade. Some laptops do have dual drive bays. You'll pay a bit more for one that does, but they are out there. My ASUS K75DE has two drive bays and an optical drive. I run two SSD's in it. You could always do the factory recovery and restore it to the out of the box state just before you do the upgrade to 10. I would make your recovery media before hand too, just in case.
    Thought my recent post elsewhere may be of interest to the OP.
    Windows 10 build 10162 Released

    Rich
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  7.    06 Jul 2015 #7

    nt62 said: View Post
    Depends on what you are comfortable with.

    Doing a clean install only takes 10 minutes.
    And then the installation of all your programs, settings (assuming you remember half of the settings) and updates takes another 3 to 4 DAYS.

    Mark
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  8.    06 Jul 2015 #8

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I do clean installs all the time. Even from a USB thumb drive to an SSD its more than 10 minutes. For me it is anyway. More like 20 minutes plus if you ask me.
    I'd love to know the secret you guys have regarding a clean install (see my reply to another just a few minutes ago). Add in the time to reinstall all programs, settings and updates takes me, on and off, 3-4 days.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  9.    06 Jul 2015 #9

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Why not just buy one with Windows 8.1 on it? 8.1 also qualifies for the free upgrade. Some laptops do have dual drive bays. You'll pay a bit more for one that does, but they are out there. My ASUS K75DE has two drive bays and an optical drive. I run two SSD's in it. You could always do the factory recovery and restore it to the out of the box state just before you do the upgrade to 10. I would make your recovery media before hand too, just in case.
    I cannot tolerate the 8.1 interface. I'm using my wife's laptop which has a 3rd party 'start' button and clean landscape a la 7 and it works except for when you fall into a trap like using (what used to be called) MS 'print to file' and end up in some program that consumes the screen and you need a doctorate to exit (since I'm only using her machine temporarily I didn't bother installing my generic pdf print driver). To be fair, this printing situation may be present in 7 too, I just never ended up there. Long story short, that's why I would get a Win7 machine vs 8 with intent to upgrade. If it turned out that 10 really wasn't ready for primetime on release at least I'd have my comfortable 7 environment.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  10.    06 Jul 2015 #10

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    You could always do the factory recovery and restore it to the out of the box state just before you do the upgrade to 10. I would make your recovery media before hand too, just in case.
    Excellent point and that's what I'll plan on doing.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Related Threads
Hi Using only the Microsoft utilities, how do I convert the install.wim to install.esd file? Thanks Bye
I used MiniTool Partition wizard to migrate the OS from my HDD to a new SSD. Process worked fine and the SSD booted. Problem is when I try to do an inplace upgrade to Windows 10 Insider preview on the SSD. The installation stops with the message...
Hi there On install on an HP envy laptop I got the "Just a Moment" Logo at the final stage just going on forever. After about 15 mins I thought well I'll try again. I couldn't even POWER OFF the laptop. I had to open it up and remove the battery...
Solved Cannot install Windows TP in Installation and Upgrade
I have followed the tutorials from this forum. Downloaded .iso (both US and GB versions). Made thumb-drive and multiple DVDs (both -R and +R) using "Windows 7 USB DVD download tool" and "Rufus". Additionally, I have tried 2 different...
I have W10 Eng 32 bit and latest VMPlayer. I tried installling as W8. It works but vmware tools are messed up. I have other vms with tools already installed. It seems to detect them after I get W10 desktop. Also it never asks me for the product...

Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:03.
Find Us