Windows 7 inplace install 10 vs ?

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    markg2 said:
    I'd love to know the secret you guys have regarding a clean install (see my reply to another just a few minutes ago). Add in the time to reinstall all programs, settings and updates takes me, on and off, 3-4 days.
    My 20 minute estimate is just for installing Windows and getting to the desktop. Most of my settings are synced to Onedrive and get synced back automatically. I can have my use everyday stuff like Office installed in a couple of hours after that. Then I just pick away at any other stuff as I go.
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       #12

    markg2 said:
    I cannot tolerate the 8.1 interface. I'm using my wife's laptop which has a 3rd party 'start' button and clean landscape a la 7 and it works except for when you fall into a trap like using (what used to be called) MS 'print to file' and end up in some program that consumes the screen and you need a doctorate to exit (since I'm only using her machine temporarily I didn't bother installing my generic pdf print driver). To be fair, this printing situation may be present in 7 too, I just never ended up there. Long story short, that's why I would get a Win7 machine vs 8 with intent to upgrade. If it turned out that 10 really wasn't ready for primetime on release at least I'd have my comfortable 7 environment.
    OK, fair enough, I can see your logic. Keep in mind that it can sometimes be tricky to go back to the factory setup in Windows 7. Especially if you don't have any install media. Make your recovery media before you do anything. The upgrade to 10 could break the factory one key recovery feature. Windows 8.1 is a lot easier to reinstall and install media is easy to come by.

    If you hate 8 your likely not going like Windows 10 all that much. It has a start menu but its different from Windows 7's start menu.
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       #13

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    If you hate 8 your likely not going like Windows 10 all that much. It has a start menu but its different from Windows 7's start menu.[/QUOTE]

    I know and that's an important reason for buying the machine with Win7 pro on it. Although I did see a 10 screen shot where a right click on the faux start button yielded darn near all the stuff displayed in a normal Win7 start screen. If I have that feature then it's likely over time I'll slowly adjust to 10 on a try and see, bit by bit toe in the water kind of thing. At some point, and the gulf between 7 and 10 may be the point, there's an OS inflection wherein newer soft and hard technologies simply don't work or don't work well--a la XP vs. 7
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       #14

    markg2 said:
    I know and that's an important reason for buying the machine with Win7 pro on it. Although I did see a 10 screen shot where a right click on the faux start button yielded darn near all the stuff displayed in a normal Win7 start screen. If I have that feature then it's likely over time I'll slowly adjust to 10 on a try and see, bit by bit toe in the water kind of thing. At some point, and the gulf between 7 and 10 may be the point, there's an OS inflection wherein newer soft and hard technologies simply don't work or don't work well--a la XP vs. 7
    Windows 8.1 has that same feature. The list is tools like disk management, device manager, control panel, etc. Windows 10 is closer to what Windows 7 is like than 8.1.
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  5. Posts : 1,937
    win 10 Insider
       #15

    Just buy one with 8.1 (where can you buy one with win 7?) and update it in situ before or after the 29th. Doesn't matter when you set it up with progs as you will only do that once.

    Sometimes we can out think ourselves!

    PS You will like win 10 so don't worry about going backwards.
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       #16

    [QUOTE=Especially if you don't have any install media [/QUOTE]

    If a Lenovo laptop purchase is the same as the last 15 years, no media. However, as long as I fish out the OS key from within the system I can download 'an' OS (7 or 10) and burn to a DVD or flash drive and install new/clean should a hidden partition restore fail. No?
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       #17

    markg2 said:
    If a Lenovo laptop purchase is the same as the last 15 years, no media. However, as long as I fish out the OS key from within the system I can download 'an' OS (7 or 10) and burn to a DVD or flash drive and install new/clean should a hidden partition restore fail. No?
    If it's Windows 7 there should be a COA sticker with a key on it. The one Windows 7 is installed with from the factory is useless for reinstalls unless you have custom branded OEM install media.
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       #18

    Sent to wrong person (me).
    Last edited by markg2; 07 Jul 2015 at 08:17. Reason: Mistake
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  9. Posts : 271
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       #19

    alphanumeric said:
    Most of my settings are synced to Onedrive and get synced back automatically
    I thought the ability to backup settings was removed after XP?

    Setting backup 'was' just for Office and that left a zillion other application settings lost and, as you say, having to pick away at them (annoyingly) for several weeks as you come across them. Still correct with 'you' backup settings?

    Not to ignore some advantage, is there a particular directory that houses all the settings to which you refer? Assuming you're using 8 is the location the same for 7?
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       #20

    alphanumeric said:
    If it's Windows 7 there should be a COA sticker with a key on it. The one Windows 7 is installed with from the factory is useless for reinstalls unless you have custom branded OEM install media.
    So the key that Jelly Bean fishes out is the same 'useless' key for a reinstall?
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