Checksum values(SHA1) fo WIN 10 Home x64 ISO download from MS

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  1.    19 May 2017 #11

    cruzified said: View Post
    This may of been the case some years ago but is not so now. Windows ISO's are constantly changing. You can see this by mounting the ISO and running the command dism /Get-WimInfo /WimFile:H:\sources\install.esd /index:1. With 2 ISO's of the same build, version, and architecture, downloaded 3 weeks apart with MCT. It shows different size, different amount of directories, different amount of files, and different creation dates.
    The MCT download will be unique to you, as far as checksums hash values go, every time you download it. Some files and directories will have that date and time. The creation date will be the date and time you did the download on. How often the actual download image is updated I have no idea, only Microsoft knows that. My MSDN ISO's though are fixed in time with a verifiable hash code. For the most part they are what I use here at home. For most people though, the MCT is the only option.
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  2.    19 May 2017 #12

    When it comes to verification, the ISO's at MSDN are the same as Techbench (AFAIK)...

    However, the MCT downloads an ESD that has a hash (see products.ini) and as correctly stated the hash of the resulting iso created will differ based on date-time created (I guess we will just have to trust that MCT will only create an iso after checking the ESD hash)
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  3.    19 May 2017 #13

    Forgot about Techbench.
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  4.    19 May 2017 #14

    cruzified said: View Post
    This may of been the case some years ago but is not so now. Windows ISO's are constantly changing. You can see this by mounting the ISO and running the command dism /Get-WimInfo /WimFile:H:\sources\install.esd /index:1. With 2 ISO's of the same build, version, and architecture, downloaded 3 weeks apart with MCT. It shows different size, different amount of directories, [FONT="]different amount of[/FONT] files, and different creation dates.
    The ISO file may be constantly changing, but it is not being constantly updated. You can tell which version of the ISO file MCT is going to download before it downloads it. Run the MCT. Just after accepting the EULA, look in C:\$Windows.~WS\Sources and open/edit the products.xml file there. Inside the products.xml file you will find the references to the esd files that MCT is going to download to create the ISO file from. For example:

    Code:
     <File id="375320">
                <FileName>15063.0.170317-1834.rs2_release_CLIENTCombinedN_RET_x64fre_en-us.esd</FileName>
                <LanguageCode>en-us</LanguageCode>
                <Language>English</Language>
                <Edition>ProfessionalN</Edition>
                <Architecture>x64</Architecture>
                <Size>2861869874</Size>
                <Sha1>e162b8d78194d8fb9cd47180b9574292d559af5a</Sha1>
                <FilePath>http://fg.ds.b1.download.windowsupdate.com/d/Upgr/2017/03/15063.0.170317-1834.rs2_release_clientcombinedn_ret_x64fre_en-us_e162b8d78194d8fb9cd47180b9574292d559af5a.esd</FilePath>
                <Key>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</Key>
                <Architecture_Loc>%ARCH_64%</Architecture_Loc>
                <Edition_Loc>%CLIENT_N%</Edition_Loc>
                <IsRetailOnly>False</IsRetailOnly>
              </File>
    This is from the MCT I just downloaded a couple of minutes ago. It is going to download build 15063.0 dated March 17, 2017. When the MCT creates the ISO file from the esd file, some of the other files in the ISO will get a current created on or modified date. That is why the checksums on the ISO files change constantly.
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  5. gcwizard's Avatar
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    Win 10 home x64 version 1709
    Thread Starter
       19 May 2017 #15

    Thanks!


    Thanks for the insight, info, etc. Good to know how the check the build of the download beforehand. I knew how to check this after the download but not before.
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  6.    17 Jan 2018 #16

    @gcwizard
    Did you manage to find a reliable way to validate checksums in win 10?

    I am in the same situation to you.

    So far the best way seems to download the ISO(not media creation tool) direct from microsoft (via emulating a non WIN OS and visiting microsoft dl page) however still there are not checksums available.
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  7. Berton's Avatar
    Posts : 5,502
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, WinXP Home Premium, Linux Mint
       17 Jan 2018 #17

    AllTheThings said: View Post
    @gcwizard
    Did you manage to find a reliable way to validate checksums in win 10?

    I am in the same situation to you.

    So far the best way seems to download the ISO(not media creation tool) direct from microsoft (via emulating a non WIN OS and visiting microsoft dl page) however still there are not checksums available.
    Since the last post before this was back in May it's hard to tell if there was a solution or if it was not needed. I do the stand-alone/offline installer of the updates and even though they may stall and have to be resumed I've never had a bad/corrupted download.
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