Windows 10: No ESD for new build 14986 download? Solved

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  1.    17 Dec 2016 #21

    Kari said: View Post
    EnableUUPScan is removed from registry as unnecessary after a reboot when it and SupportsUUP are disabled (value 0). When UUP is disabled, scanning for existing installation to know what to upgrade is not necessary, upgrade does not need EnableUUPScan. A good example how Windows really can take care of registry all by itself.

    Next upgrade will reset both values, setting SupportsUUP to enabled (value 1) and recreating EnableUUPScan setting it to enabled (1).

    Kari
    Thanks! I wasn't sure if it was needed or not. I wouldn't want to miss the next build when it's released.
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       18 Dec 2016 #22

    Assuming the next build upgrade still comes as ESD and UUP version, you are ready to go with SupportsUUP = 0 and EnableUUPScan missing.

    If (when?) the day comes that Microsoft simply does not provide the ESD build upgrade anymore, that only UUP method will be available, you need to set SupportsUUP to 1, manually create EnableUUPScan and set it to 1 as well.

    I've tested this on Hyper-V virtual machines, first allowing both values be 1 (UUP enabled) and let Windows download the UUP upgrade, no ESD file. Before launching the upgrade I've then removed the BT folder, set both DWORD values to 0 (UUP disabled) and restarted from Restart now button in WU which causes Windows just to reboot normally because the upgrade files are missing. Windows Update picks the upgrade again immediately after restart, this time with ESD file.

    Once again not doing the upgrade but instead deleting the BT folder, setting SupportsUUP back to 1, creating the now missing EnableUUPScan and setting it, too to 1, after the reboot WU again finds upgrade immediately, this time the UUP version.
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  3.    18 Dec 2016 #23

    Kari said: View Post
    Assuming the next build upgrade still comes as ESD and UUP version, you are ready to go with SupportsUUP = 0 and EnableUUPScan missing.

    If (when?) the day comes that Microsoft simply does not provide the ESD build upgrade anymore, that only UUP method will be available, you need to set SupportsUUP to 1, manually create EnableUUPScan and set it to 1 as well.

    I've tested this on Hyper-V virtual machines, first allowing both values be 1 (UUP enabled) and let Windows download the UUP upgrade, no ESD file. Before launching the upgrade I've then removed the BT folder, set both DWORD values to 0 (UUP disabled) and restarted from Restart now button in WU which causes Windows just to reboot normally because the upgrade files are missing. Windows Update picks the upgrade again immediately after restart, this time with ESD file.

    Once again not doing the upgrade but instead deleting the BT folder, setting SupportsUUP back to 1, creating the now missing EnableUUPScan and setting it, too to 1, after the reboot WU again finds upgrade immediately, this time the UUP version.
    I think the change was done when I used the ESD you posted to do a in-place repair install. I was trying to fix a problem I was having on my desktop. Turns out it was a hardware problem and the computer died. All it does now is turn on the fans. I don't even get the beeps when I remove the memory. I now have the SSD with my Insider build running on another desktop.
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  4.    19 Dec 2016 #24

    David H said: View Post
    Keep the hell away from Utorrent it's so buggy and lets in ads. I use (i dont use it much now) it Tixati No ads anything and way more secure..
    Tixati.com - Download
    As for AVG Ugggg <shudder> talk about bog your system down with unnecessary crud. UI use Avast also free can register for a Free year and I have had NO problems with it, in over 10 years of using the Free version every year.
    Never had problems with AVG Free slowing things down in over 20 years of using it. I also have no problems with Utorrent:
    I don't watch it download, so the ads don't bother me.

    BUT, after about 15 days of using build 14986, Potplayer now has no audio! Tried re-installing it. No joy.
    UNACCEPTABLE! [I also have Realtek High Definition Audio Driver.This may also be the culprit, but again, UNACCEPTABLE!]

    Re-imaged to build 14971.
    Then, used UUP version (after "Security" Update came out) and updated to build 14986.
    Now Macrium Reflect free will not finish an image. Final stage of backup hangs.
    Rebooted. Now, Macrium works. [Updated Utorrent; haven't tried Utorrent yet. Potplayer has audio, for now.
    Last edited by p455word; 20 Dec 2016 at 12:09.
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