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  1.    04 Jun 2015 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    I would like that option back too. Although I have installed every update offered, there have certainly been the odd problem one (such as the Realtek driver a couple of months back, an update that then got pulled).

    I do have doubts though as to just how much control we will regain. It probably sounds a bit silly but not having control over the OS makes it feel less like 'mine' and more like its somebody else's that I've rented out. Silly I know but that's a feeling I get. If I don't have control it won't feel like I own it.
    Even Silverlight?

    You poor thing.
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  2.    04 Jun 2015 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by bromanbro View Post
    Even Silverlight?

    You poor thing.
    Silverlight is no big deal, not to me anyway. But having Bing Search or Skype forced on me would be. Not saying they will do it, but they could, and if they do, I won't be a happy camper.
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  3.    04 Jun 2015 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by bromanbro View Post
    Even Silverlight?

    You poor thing.
    Hmmm. That had me looking, however it appears not. No Silverlight.
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  4.    04 Jun 2015 #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    Will we get control over updates back ? That is, the ability to turn off automatic updating.
    As it stands now, no.

    Only Current Build Business (CBB) will be able to delay updates, but not deny updates.

    This isn't as big a deal as it sounds... most user like to look, but end up installing everything anyway (Bing and Silverlight were the exceptions and occasionally an AMD driver need to be corrected). Bing isn't an issue any longer, Silverlight is almost dead (I was offered one SL update in March I think).

    Since I download and install anyway, why should it matter. Still there's that part of me that refuses to relinquish update control to any vendor. Under normal circumstances it will work well, it's the one off circumstance that bothers me - when things don't work well and I can't connect because my driver was updated. This is rare - I just grab the copy of the driver from storage and I'm back on line.

    The only thing left is the occasional AMD driver issues - not to worry about that though ... 10.0.130 can't get it right.

    Seriously, MS has a lot riding on Win10 - the device drivers have to work flawlessly or Win10 will go down in flames.
    They're working very hard on this and maybe ... probably ... that's why 10.0.130 has the number of driver issues members are reporting.

    This position might change, but MS really wants to have all machines running the same level of code to make their lives (development, support, end user confusion, what ever) and really our lives that much easier.

    Will people accept that? We'll see if mankind and machines can adapt to changing conditions or go the way of the dinosaurs.
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  5.    04 Jun 2015 #45
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    With all the bad updates we've seen lately, I am glad that I have my WU set to "notify only". I usually wait for a week or even 2 before I install WUs. If they take that control away from me (which it appears they are indeed doing) I will be VERY irritated.
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  6.    04 Jun 2015 #46
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    With the new update model, that's what the Slow ring will be for. You only get updates when they have been vetted by the fast ring.
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  7.    04 Jun 2015 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Huh? Both were available for in stores on the day it went on sale. The ISO's were available for download from MSDN and TechNet... What do you mean you couldn't get legal ISO's?
    most of us don't have MSDN or Tech net accounts there were no legal ISO until recently. With window 7 MS made ISO available through Green River.. Neither 8 or 8.1 were available.
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  8.    04 Jun 2015 #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    ISO's will eventually show up on MSDN. Once that happens somebody will upload them to a web site or on bit torrent etc. It won't be me but somebody will, they always do. Some will create ISO's from Retail DVD's and do the same thing. Will they be clean and unaltered, maybe? I really hope Microsoft does a Media Creation Tool website for 10 like they did for Windows 8. Then you won't have to hunt up a clean ISO when you need it. If clean installs are going to be allowed like Microsoft says, they will be supplying the install media. Why would you do one without the other? Install media is useless without a key so why not let consumers easily download an ISO like you can for Windows 8?
    I never understood why the did not release ISO for Win8. I am never comfortable downloading a OS from torrent
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  9.    04 Jun 2015 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    I never understood why the did not release ISO for Win8. I am never comfortable downloading a OS from torrent
    It's been like that for as long as I can remember. It's only recently that you can get an ISO for 8.1 without jumping through hoops. The first download site wouldn't accept OEM keys and those were the ones needing an ISO the most. And you couldn't install with an 8.0 key, you had to use a generic 8.1 install key, then activate with your 8.0 key. That's all history now with the Media Creation Tool for Windows 8.1. I had to resort to bit torrent when I got my laptop and put in an SSD. I wasn't an MVP at that time and cloning the hard drive to the SSD would not work. I now have MSDN so ISO's for me are not an issue now. Others are not so fortunate though.
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  10.    04 Jun 2015 #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clintlgm View Post
    most of us don't have MSDN or Tech net accounts there were no legal ISO until recently. With window 7 MS made ISO available through Green River.. Neither 8 or 8.1 were available.
    Microsoft have pulled the digital river downloads for Windows 7.
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