Windows 10: Windows 10 will not upgrade (partition issue)

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  1.    03 Jun 2015 #11

    I was actually messing around with partition wizzard. Messed around with it so much, deleted my backup HDD. :P Not a big deal, nothing on there but programs and so forth. Nothing I could not reinstall.
    so finally it is up and running. wow, what a headache, but guess as this is a testing phase, working out the kinks is what we are here for.
    2 questions
    Is it actually this slow to restart? Probably 10x slower then what win 7 does, maybe even longer.
    What I was wanting to originally do was put it on my HDD not my SSD. Is there a guide running around on doing that?

    I so appreciate your time and effort, so much appreciated.
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       03 Jun 2015 #12

    You're very welcome flip.
    Glad you got past the issue, sorry too hear about the slowness.

    You can use PW to try to recover the HDD data
    See: How to use partition recovery function of partition magic?

    I'm not sure what you did to get here, did you
    just try the install or
    did you resize the System Reserve?
    I'm curious.

    A guide you ask ... sure is
    See: Windows 10 - Dual Boot with Windows 7 or Windows 8 - Windows 10 Forums
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  3.    03 Jun 2015 #13

    I just did a simple resize of the reserve and ran Windows update and low and behold up popped the instructions for WIn 10 finally. I never needed the ISO. Was pretty cool doing one, had never done one before and now have learned a lot from this. Then restarted. Windows took over and finished it off on the restart on the partition.
    Unfortunately win 10 is causing issues with gaming, and going to have to ditch it for now. I do like the layout of it and will definitely get it back again very soon when the kinks are worked out.
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       03 Jun 2015 #14

    Ok, thanks. Yeah, hang around here and you learn lots of cool things.

    MS would love to hear abut the issues you're having with gaming. They'll use that to make Win10 better.

    There's a feedback app (this allows MS to collect information about the issue(s) - and answers.microsoft.com tech preview - both places are a good way to let MS know about your experience.

    See ya on the flip side, then
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  5.    11 Aug 2015 #15

    i had the same problem on my notebook with Win 7 OEM, nothing worked till i did this : http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...c-easybcd.html
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  6.    24 Aug 2015 #16

    Slartybart said: View Post
    The System Reserved partition is fine at 100 MB,
    a combined System Reserved with Windows RE should be a minimum of 300 MB (per Technet)
    If you want to just try the Win10 install again - that might be the most expedient. If you want the machine to be 'technically correct' then go through the process below.

    Rather than ask you to go through a bunch of disk schema gyrations (shrink, resize, create extended.create logical, move Windows....), I'll agree with Mystere and suggest that you 'grow' the System Reserve part (labeled Data on Disk 1) to 450 MB.

    Keep in mind throughout this exercise that everything is MEGABYTES - I screw that up sometimes - too conditioned I guess.

    This takes a bit of work, but it's not difficult. Read through this and ask any questions, once you boot to PW, you'll be incommunicado (unless you have another means to get to the forum which would be great!)

    Download Minitool Partition Wizard and put it in on a bootable disc or USB flash drive.
    Scroll down, 2nd from the bottom is Partition Wizard Bootable CD Free Edition
    Click on the blue download button.
    Attachment 20642

    This page details putting the ISO to disc or USB drive:
    This page describes the resize / mover operations you will perform:
    The first thing you have to do is shrink C: - shrink it by 350 MB (your system reserve is already 100 MB, so when you're finished it will be 450 MB)
    Selet C:
    then select move/resize .. the fields are self explanatory - all you have to do is the math (current size - 350 MB)
    set 0 MB after the drive to move it. The graphical interface gives you visual confirmation - you should see 350 MB of free space to the left of C:

    PW takes a bit of getting used to operationally. First you tell it what you want to do, then you have to confirm the operation by pressing Apply.
    Once you're sure you have it right, hit the Apply
    There are two places you can confirm / apply (one is on the left operation pane OR there's also a main button up top)

    Half way there....all you have to do now is extend System Reserve (labeled Data)
    Select Data
    select the move/resize operation
    use the slider to consume all of the free space (the 350 you made available in the previous operation)
    Once you're sure you have it right, hit the Apply

    The partiton should now be 450 MB

    Might as well change the labels to avoid any confusion in the future.

    Change the volume label System Reserve on Disk 0 to HDD reserve (or anything that makes sense to you)
    Change the volume label Data on Disk 1 to System Reserve

    Restart your machine and see if Win10 installs.

    Thanks
    I am trying to install Windows 10 onto a friend's old notebook. I thought I would do her a favour and speed up het system and I got her a Samsung 850 EVO 200GB. Then I used the Samsung software to clone her drive. I think it was a mistake to use that Samsung cloning software. I ended up with a 100MB partition called Data and the drive C: partition taking up the rest of the drive. Windows booted up fine from the new SSD.

    However when I try to upgrade to Windows 10 I get the infamous "could not update the system reserved partition". I gather this is because 100MB is too small for the Windows 10 reserved partition. What I plan to do now is shrink drive C: by 350MB, then move it to the end of the drive and finally to extend partition called Data by the 350MB. Should work right?

    Would I have the same problem upgrading to Windows 10 if I put the old drive back into the notebook and then upgraded to Windows 10?

    Does it need to be an upgrade. Could I not do a clean install from a DVD and enter the KEY that is on the bottom of her laptop?

    Thanks
    Ak
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  7.    24 Aug 2015 #17

    alkaufmann said: View Post
    Does it need to be an upgrade. Could I not do a clean install from a DVD and enter the KEY that is on the bottom of her laptop?

    Thanks
    Ak
    You can do a clean install of the operating system that the key is for. You have to do an upgrade of an in place operating system to Windows 10 first for it to activate. Putting the old hard drive back in might have the reserved system partition on it. Then you would shrink the big operating system partition and add that space to the reserved partition and then upgrade. Once you have the upgrade done and activated, you could then put in the new drive and clean install Windows 10 to it by erasing the existing partitions and skipping entering any product keys the clean install asks for. Do NOT enter any product keys, it will activate itself based on the info saved to the Microsoft activation server from the activation that occurred after the upgrade.
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  8.    25 Aug 2015 #18

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    You can do a clean install of the operating system that the key is for. You have to do an upgrade of an in place operating system to Windows 10 first for it to activate. Putting the old hard drive back in might have the reserved system partition on it. Then you would shrink the big operating system partition and add that space to the reserved partition and then upgrade. Once you have the upgrade done and activated, you could then put in the new drive and clean install Windows 10 to it by erasing the existing partitions and skipping entering any product keys the clean install asks for. Do NOT enter any product keys, it will activate itself based on the info saved to the Microsoft activation server from the activation that occurred after the upgrade.
    Thanks for the reply. I think the easiest thing to try first would be to pull the SSD, use my desktop software to resize the system reserved partition and then give the upgrade another try.

    The hardest part will be prying the notebook from her hands for long enough time to do the upgrade. I think I would have to supply a loaner notebook so that she does not suffer through e-mail & Internet withdrawal! I think she will need to be happy with Windows 7 and the SSD.
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  9.    25 Aug 2015 #19

    alkaufmann said: View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I think the easiest thing to try first would be to pull the SSD, use my desktop software to resize the system reserved partition and then give the upgrade another try.
    Why do you have to pull the SSD and use your desktop software to resize the system reserved partition? Why can't you just install MiniTool Partition Wizard on the notebook and do it right there without having to remove any drives?

    See here:
    Solved Windows 10 couldn't update system reserved partition - Windows 10 Forums
    Last edited by NavyLCDR; 25 Aug 2015 at 12:30.
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  10.    25 Aug 2015 #20

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Why do you have to pull the SSD and use your desktop software to resize the system reserved partition? Why can't you just install MiniTool Partition Wizard on the notebook and do it right there without having to remove any drives?

    See here:
    Solved Windows 10 couldn't update system reserved partition - Windows 10 Forums
    Pulling the SSD is easy and my desktop has an external hard drive dock and Paragon software that I know how to use. I will look into this MiniTool Partition Wizard. Thank.

    Ak
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