Any significant hardware requirements change with the AU 1607?


  1. Posts : 366
    Windows 10 v. 21H1, Build 19043.1348
       #1

    Any significant hardware requirements change with the AU 1607?


    I had a helluva time struggling with getting my computer updated from the original build of Win10 (the 10240 RTM release) to the Anniversary Update (1607), to the point where it just would not happen, no matter what I tried. My computer was running the original release just fine. No crashes. No bizarre behavior (other than typing in Internet Explorer text fields being peculiarly slow in response). But what I was able to do was update my computer to version 1511, O/S build 10586.589. This is the build just prior to the AU 1607. It is installed, and I'm running just fine.

    A Microsoft MVP tech had struggled to help me with my inquiries over on the Microsoft community... it was painful. He kept jumping to conclusions and wouldn't hear me out fully. I documented my struggles, and my success to 1511. He's now telling me that I should see the AU 1607 being offered to me when doing a manual check in Windows Update. Well, I don't. And he's of the opinion that if I'm not seeing it, that Windows has determined that my computer may not be compatible.

    What?

    Now, I'm running version 1511, build 10586.589 just fine. If the Win10 installer determined that my computer wasn't capable of running Win10, it would not have installed and would have informed me upfront, or failed miserably later on with no usable clue as to why. That did not happen.

    So my question is this -- Was there ANY kind of hardware requirements change with the AU 1607 that might cause a computer already running Win10 to fail the compatibility test for installing the AU?

    I'm guessing not, and that this poor MVP has a misunderstanding. My take is that I won't even get the AU offered until 30 days after my ISO of 1511 was successfully installed, because Microsoft is staggering the updates (for the purposes of spreading the load on their servers). Would folks here agree with that? Or do I have anything to be concerned about?

    Incidentally, I'm NOT going to try forcing the AU 1607 to install right now... because I wasted so much time last weekend and the weekends before dealing with these install problems - I'd rather wait until my Win10 O/S decides on its own that "it is time" for the AU update.
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  2. Posts : 7,871
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #2

    Some people are having issues upgrading to 1607 - it may be worth postponing/deferring upgrading until the bugs are ironed out. I'm not upgrading until the missing drives/RAW format bug is cured.

    You could have a look at the HP support site to check you have the altest Windows 10 drivers, ask HP support if your PC is compatible and peruse/post on a relevant HP forum to check for problems. Also, check you have the latest PC BIOS and it supports Windows 10.
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  3. Posts : 260
    Win 10 Pro X64
       #3

    I'm running the Anniversary Update on old 775 motherboards (Including a HP DC7900) with both dual core and quad core as well as 1151 ones and no issues. I find the best way is to clean install which seems to remove various issues that happen with the upgrade path
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  4. Posts : 366
    Windows 10 v. 21H1, Build 19043.1348
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Steve C said:
    Some people are having issues upgrading to 1607 - it may be worth postponing/deferring upgrading until the bugs are ironed out. I'm not upgrading until the missing drives/RAW format bug is cured.

    You could have a look at the HP support site to check you have the altest Windows 10 drivers, ask HP support if your PC is compatible and peruse/post on a relevant HP forum to check for problems. Also, check you have the latest PC BIOS and it supports Windows 10.
    Yes, I did upgrade drivers and the BIOS. In fact, I could not get 10240 RTM installed until I realized that HP updated the BIOS in August 2016. Their "HP Assistant" is fine about updating drivers, but it fails to let you know about BIOS updates... which is a bit frustrating.
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  5. Posts : 366
    Windows 10 v. 21H1, Build 19043.1348
    Thread Starter
       #5

    I"m going to wait. While the AU 1607 build provides nice improvements, I'm fine with the last build of 1511. Thanks for the tips!
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  6. Posts : 366
    Windows 10 v. 21H1, Build 19043.1348
    Thread Starter
       #6

    NOTE
    Finally Microsoft fixed this problem, after analyzing all of the installation bug reports. This constant failure of being able to upgrade to 1607 appears to be no more... at least for my machine. Microsoft pushed this as a silent update. I expected the update requiring a reboot to be a routine one, but it ballooned into a nearly hour long update affair. I'm VERY lucky this did not happen during business hours, or I would have been SCREWED! I wish Microsoft would be more thoughtful about these updates and let you know HOW LONG they are going to take.

    So, I rebooted and then ended up in this long update... didn't know why it was going to take so long. But when I rebooted again, I was greeted as if I'd just updated to Windows 10 for the first time. BIZARRE!

    Anyway, not complaining... winver shows that I'm now on 1607. So thank you, Microsoft... but please, give us more advanced users some leeway to know more about what's going on. It is disconcerting to be left in the dark like this.
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  7. Posts : 18,424
    Windows 11 Pro
       #7

    Steve C said:
    Some people are having issues upgrading to 1607 - it may be worth postponing/deferring upgrading until the bugs are ironed out. I'm not upgrading until the missing drives/RAW format bug is cured.
    I'm still curious as to what determines when the "bugs are ironed out"?
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  8. Posts : 64
    Win10 Pro x64
       #8

    cytherian said:
    NOTE
    Finally Microsoft fixed this problem, after analyzing all of the installation bug reports. This constant failure of being able to upgrade to 1607 appears to be no more... at least for my machine. Microsoft pushed this as a silent update.
    Hey cytherian, I'm in a somewhat similar situation -- older hardware that's working fine with 1511 but not with 1607 -- though my actual problem is somewhat different. How did you get Microsoft to help you fix your problem? I'm at my wits end!
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  9. Posts : 31,471
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #9

    cytherian said:
    NOTE Microsoft pushed this as a silent update. I expected the update requiring a reboot to be a routine one, but it ballooned into a nearly hour long update affair. ... So, I rebooted and then ended up in this long update... didn't know why it was going to take so long. But when I rebooted again, I was greeted as if I'd just updated to Windows 10 for the first time. BIZARRE...
    No, none of it is Bizarre. There have been two 'Features Updates...' so far, the Fall Update to 1511 and the Anniversary Update to 1607. Unlike the monthly Cumulative updates that just patch security and bug fixes, a Features Update is a complete install of a whole new operating system - everything has been replaced and you have your old system preserved in 'windows.old'. You HAVE just updated to a new version of Windows 10 - it's called 1607, your old one was called 1511 and (for the next 10 days) you have the option to go back to it, should you wish.

    You'll know what to expect next time, Windows 10 version 1703 is due out in the spring...
    Complete Guide to Windows 10 Version 1703
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