Windows 10: Any significant hardware requirements change with the AU 1607? Solved


  1. Posts : 56
    Win10 (build 10586.589), Win10 (10240)
       22 Sep 2016 #1

    Any significant hardware requirements change with the AU 1607?


    I had a helluva time struggling with getting my computer updated from the original build of Win10 (the 10240 RTM release) to the Anniversary Update (1607), to the point where it just would not happen, no matter what I tried. My computer was running the original release just fine. No crashes. No bizarre behavior (other than typing in Internet Explorer text fields being peculiarly slow in response). But what I was able to do was update my computer to version 1511, O/S build 10586.589. This is the build just prior to the AU 1607. It is installed, and I'm running just fine.

    A Microsoft MVP tech had struggled to help me with my inquiries over on the Microsoft community... it was painful. He kept jumping to conclusions and wouldn't hear me out fully. I documented my struggles, and my success to 1511. He's now telling me that I should see the AU 1607 being offered to me when doing a manual check in Windows Update. Well, I don't. And he's of the opinion that if I'm not seeing it, that Windows has determined that my computer may not be compatible.

    What?

    Now, I'm running version 1511, build 10586.589 just fine. If the Win10 installer determined that my computer wasn't capable of running Win10, it would not have installed and would have informed me upfront, or failed miserably later on with no usable clue as to why. That did not happen.

    So my question is this -- Was there ANY kind of hardware requirements change with the AU 1607 that might cause a computer already running Win10 to fail the compatibility test for installing the AU?

    I'm guessing not, and that this poor MVP has a misunderstanding. My take is that I won't even get the AU offered until 30 days after my ISO of 1511 was successfully installed, because Microsoft is staggering the updates (for the purposes of spreading the load on their servers). Would folks here agree with that? Or do I have anything to be concerned about?

    Incidentally, I'm NOT going to try forcing the AU 1607 to install right now... because I wasted so much time last weekend and the weekends before dealing with these install problems - I'd rather wait until my Win10 O/S decides on its own that "it is time" for the AU update.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  2. Posts : 1,535
    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)
       23 Sep 2016 #2

    Some people are having issues upgrading to 1607 - it may be worth postponing/deferring upgrading until the bugs are ironed out. I'm not upgrading until the missing drives/RAW format bug is cured.

    You could have a look at the HP support site to check you have the altest Windows 10 drivers, ask HP support if your PC is compatible and peruse/post on a relevant HP forum to check for problems. Also, check you have the latest PC BIOS and it supports Windows 10.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  3.    23 Sep 2016 #3

    I'm running the Anniversary Update on old 775 motherboards (Including a HP DC7900) with both dual core and quad core as well as 1151 ones and no issues. I find the best way is to clean install which seems to remove various issues that happen with the upgrade path
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  4. Posts : 56
    Win10 (build 10586.589), Win10 (10240)
    Thread Starter
       24 Sep 2016 #4

    Steve C said: View Post
    Some people are having issues upgrading to 1607 - it may be worth postponing/deferring upgrading until the bugs are ironed out. I'm not upgrading until the missing drives/RAW format bug is cured.

    You could have a look at the HP support site to check you have the altest Windows 10 drivers, ask HP support if your PC is compatible and peruse/post on a relevant HP forum to check for problems. Also, check you have the latest PC BIOS and it supports Windows 10.
    Yes, I did upgrade drivers and the BIOS. In fact, I could not get 10240 RTM installed until I realized that HP updated the BIOS in August 2016. Their "HP Assistant" is fine about updating drivers, but it fails to let you know about BIOS updates... which is a bit frustrating.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  5. Posts : 56
    Win10 (build 10586.589), Win10 (10240)
    Thread Starter
       24 Sep 2016 #5

    I"m going to wait. While the AU 1607 build provides nice improvements, I'm fine with the last build of 1511. Thanks for the tips!
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  6. Posts : 56
    Win10 (build 10586.589), Win10 (10240)
    Thread Starter
       13 Nov 2016 #6

    NOTE
    Finally Microsoft fixed this problem, after analyzing all of the installation bug reports. This constant failure of being able to upgrade to 1607 appears to be no more... at least for my machine. Microsoft pushed this as a silent update. I expected the update requiring a reboot to be a routine one, but it ballooned into a nearly hour long update affair. I'm VERY lucky this did not happen during business hours, or I would have been SCREWED! I wish Microsoft would be more thoughtful about these updates and let you know HOW LONG they are going to take.

    So, I rebooted and then ended up in this long update... didn't know why it was going to take so long. But when I rebooted again, I was greeted as if I'd just updated to Windows 10 for the first time. BIZARRE!

    Anyway, not complaining... winver shows that I'm now on 1607. So thank you, Microsoft... but please, give us more advanced users some leeway to know more about what's going on. It is disconcerting to be left in the dark like this.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  7.    13 Nov 2016 #7

    Steve C said: View Post
    Some people are having issues upgrading to 1607 - it may be worth postponing/deferring upgrading until the bugs are ironed out. I'm not upgrading until the missing drives/RAW format bug is cured.
    I'm still curious as to what determines when the "bugs are ironed out"?
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  8.    13 Nov 2016 #8

    cytherian said: View Post
    NOTE
    Finally Microsoft fixed this problem, after analyzing all of the installation bug reports. This constant failure of being able to upgrade to 1607 appears to be no more... at least for my machine. Microsoft pushed this as a silent update.
    Hey cytherian, I'm in a somewhat similar situation -- older hardware that's working fine with 1511 but not with 1607 -- though my actual problem is somewhat different. How did you get Microsoft to help you fix your problem? I'm at my wits end!
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  9. Posts : 2,602
    10 Home x64 (1703) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       13 Nov 2016 #9

    cytherian said: View Post
    NOTE Microsoft pushed this as a silent update. I expected the update requiring a reboot to be a routine one, but it ballooned into a nearly hour long update affair. ... So, I rebooted and then ended up in this long update... didn't know why it was going to take so long. But when I rebooted again, I was greeted as if I'd just updated to Windows 10 for the first time. BIZARRE...
    No, none of it is Bizarre. There have been two 'Features Updates...' so far, the Fall Update to 1511 and the Anniversary Update to 1607. Unlike the monthly Cumulative updates that just patch security and bug fixes, a Features Update is a complete install of a whole new operating system - everything has been replaced and you have your old system preserved in 'windows.old'. You HAVE just updated to a new version of Windows 10 - it's called 1607, your old one was called 1511 and (for the next 10 days) you have the option to go back to it, should you wish.

    You'll know what to expect next time, Windows 10 version 1703 is due out in the spring...
    Complete Guide to Windows 10 Version 1703
      My ComputersSystem Spec


 

Related Threads
So this morning I woke up to a forced password change. I tried the same password and it didn't take, doesn't meet security requirements. After a few tries fighting with it, I gave in so that I could log into my computer. Checked the local security...
Microsoft details Minimum Hardware requirements for Anniversary Update 81105 Source and more: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn915086%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
I have Intel Quicksync and AMD VCE, my Quicksync is from a newer generation but Game DVR choose AMD VCE to record which produce ugly video quality. Is there some way to change which Hardware Game DVR should use?
Read more: Microsoft will explain only 'significant' Windows 10 updates - The Register
Read more: Microsoft sheds light on minimum hardware requirements for Windows 10 for phones and desktops | Windows Central 14659 14660 14661 14662
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:52.
Find Us