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  1.    07 Sep 2016 #1
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    Win10 (build 10586.589), Win10 (10240)

    Windows 10 to "anniversary" update FAILS... no message... no clue


    I finally managed to get my laptop running on Windows 10. All was fine, running build 10240 (RTM, Threshold 1). But then the Windows Upgrade assistant informed me that I'm on an outdated version of Windows 10 and that I should update. Apparently it is pretty massive, an "anniversary update", so it's treated like an "upgrade" rather than a behind-the-scenes update.

    Well... after 45 minutes of all this "progress" and work, the process simply FAILED. Windows was successful at "restoring the previous version." OK... but... after this, NO INDICATION of what went wrong. Launching the Windows Assistant for updating is all enthusiastic about helping me "update to the latest and most secure version of Windows 10"... with nary a clue that the previous attempt failed.

    I'm AGHAST at how troublesome Microsoft has become with installs. This is the absolutely most terrible O/S upgrade experience I've ever had, going from 8.1 to 10 and now 10+. It's atrocious to see so many "hoops" that need to be leaped through without Microsoft taking the initiative to make this process an efficient and productive one. I cannot image how anyone who is a novice or with "general" Windows experience could manage this, without resorting to hundreds of dollars in support fees. It's a disaster on usability, and makes Apple seem like heaven.

    Nevertheless... painful as it is, I'm on Windows 10 and would like to be "more secure" with the latest. Any clue as to what I can do to find out what choked Microsoft on this and how to get over it?

    Going to Windows Events for "Setup" showed nothing, but "System" showed a plethora of DistributedCOM error messages. "The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM server application." Failure to register with DCOM. And other Service Control Manager errors... timeouts.

    Apparently there is some deliberate "Microsoft Windows Update Troubleshooter" program available... that Microsoft doesn't proactively tell you about. You have to "discover" it and then download from their site... to then analyze your system. You figure they'd at least point you in that direction after an update failure. I ran this, which fixed some kind of "Service registration is missing or corrupt."

    Now... wouldn't Microsoft Windows run some kind of diagnostic like this FIRST before attempting a lengthy update? As part of the "CHECKING TO SEE IF YOUR PC IS READY TO BE UPDATED," or some other such sensible action.... instead of wasting people's time.

    Hopefully I'll be able to come back with an update that comes with a happy ending.
    Last edited by cytherian; 17 Sep 2016 at 09:51.
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  2.    07 Sep 2016 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Win10 (build 10586.589), Win10 (10240)
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    No... despite the "diagnostic" tool repairing things... installation still failed. Somewhere after 50% done. Whole thing rolled back. This is insanity.

    I ran the diagnostic tool again and this time it didn't come up with any issues "cannot find any problem." Exasperating. Something tripped it up. No log? Nothing to interpret?

    Anyone have some advice other than scrapping the whole operating system and going to some minty flavor of Linux?
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  3.    07 Sep 2016 #3
    Join Date : May 2015
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    I take it that you're running the upgrade online.

    I suggest downloading the .ISO and upgrading using that. In my limited experience, it's likelier to complete.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/9...-download.html

    You don't need to create a bootable DVD or USB flash drive to do the upgrade. Win 10 can mount the .ISO as a virtual drive, and you can run the upgrade from that.
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  4.    07 Sep 2016 #4
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Forever West
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    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint

    Windows 10 to "10.1" update
    Using the Win8 to 8.1 terminology it would now be Win10.2 [example would be Version 10.0 in July '15, Version 10.1 in Nov. '15 and Version 10.2 in Aug. 16] but numerology has changed and there is the Version number and Build numbers for each of those, e.g. Version 1511 Build 10586.82, Version 1607 Build 14393.105, with the build number changing with updates. Press the Windows key and the R together to get the Run box, type winver and press enter to get the Version and Build numbers. Also right-click the Start icon and choose System to get more. There's 2 types of Win10, Home [or core] and Pro in the RTM/Released version and the Insider Preview [BETA or Test] version.
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  5.    07 Sep 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    I take it that you're running the upgrade online.

    I suggest downloading the .ISO and upgrading using that. In my limited experience, it's likelier to complete.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/9...-download.html

    You don't need to create a bootable DVD or USB flash drive to do the upgrade. Win 10 can mount the .ISO as a virtual drive, and you can run the upgrade from that.
    Thank you. I didn't realize this was available as a full download. I'll give it a shot and report back.
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  6.    08 Sep 2016 #6
    Join Date : Jun 2015
    UK
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    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)

    You should have two installation folders on your C drive for the failed installation. Find the error logs and look towards the end of the file to see what caused the error. See https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/win...and-event-logs
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  7.    08 Sep 2016 #7
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    Serbia
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    W10 Insider + Linux

    Third party, resident AV programs can interfere with upgrades.
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  8.    08 Sep 2016 #8

    Hi there

    Actually I've been rather pleasantly surprised with the ease of upgrading initially to W10 (to get the "Freebie") and then doing install from scratch.

    Had almost zero problems - mainly minor glitches which were soon fixed either by updates from Ms or help from this great Forum.

    I only have 2 outstanding issues

    1) Networking just seems totally random -- sometimes it works seamlessly, other times a Single computer that seems 100% identical to another in the network just refuses to show up whatever you do - in extreme cases a total windows re-install is the only way I've got it to be fixed.

    Windows Networking though has been its weak point ever since they started with networking - I believe they used an old DOS LAN system at first from the fledgling Novell corporation at that time (Windows 3 / 3/1 / 3.11 for workgroups).

    2) The NTFS file system with the 240 char or so name restriction (that includes the directory or folder name).

    I have loads of music folders with long directory names and even longer track names and I'm not renaming those - it would take days and is a bit of a pointless task since I'm serving those files up on a Linux home built NAS server to TV's / phones etc.

    For the rest I'm quite happy - everything works including some quite unusual hardware - and running back level of Windows as VM's such as XP for really old legacy devices works just fine too.

    So at least (apart from the 2 points I've mentioned) I'm a happy customer and don't subscribe to the "Evil Empire" theory that a lot do by saying Ms has become a totally useless and evil corporation.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9.    08 Sep 2016 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    2) The NTFS file system with the 240 char or so name restriction (that includes the directory or folder name)
    That is your software not NTFS or Windows. I have the same problem with SqueezeBox Server (not sure if you use that) but it isn't an OS problem and certainly not a NTFS problem. The developers just wrote it as it was at the time and haven't updated it.

    Other than that I agree with you - I'm happy with it.
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  10.    08 Sep 2016 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    Actually I've been rather pleasantly surprised with the ease of upgrading initially to W10 (to get the "Freebie") and then doing install from scratch.

    Had almost zero problems - mainly minor glitches which were soon fixed either by updates from Ms or help from this great Forum.

    I only have 2 outstanding issues

    1) Networking just seems totally random -- sometimes it works seamlessly, other times a Single computer that seems 100% identical to another in the network just refuses to show up whatever you do - in extreme cases a total windows re-install is the only way I've got it to be fixed.

    Windows Networking though has been its weak point ever since they started with networking - I believe they used an old DOS LAN system at first from the fledgling Novell corporation at that time (Windows 3 / 3/1 / 3.11 for workgroups).

    2) The NTFS file system with the 240 char or so name restriction (that includes the directory or folder name).

    I have loads of music folders with long directory names and even longer track names and I'm not renaming those - it would take days and is a bit of a pointless task since I'm serving those files up on a Linux home built NAS server to TV's / phones etc.

    For the rest I'm quite happy - everything works including some quite unusual hardware - and running back level of Windows as VM's such as XP for really old legacy devices works just fine too.

    So at least (apart from the 2 points I've mentioned) I'm a happy customer and don't subscribe to the "Evil Empire" theory that a lot do by saying Ms has become a totally useless and evil corporation.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Allegedly AU version allows long filenames now but you have to enable it - never tried it though.

    How to enable NTFS Long Paths in Windows 10
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