x64 DVD Won’t boot

Kbird · 04 Sep 2016

Try M$_Coreinfo Coreinfo

and see if you meet the Processor Specs . like CX16 too

Run it from an Admin Command Prompt so you can see the screen output.

bobkn · 04 Sep 2016

A couple of things:

Isn't a Windows 10 license work for both X85 and X64? (I believe that you could do an upgrade installation from a 32 bit qualifying OS, and follow that with a change to 64 bit with a clean install. It'd have to be the same type of license: Home or Pro.)

If I understand the OP, she can't boot the PC from an X64 DVD. Shouldn't she be able to do that, regardless of whether the OS would actually install or activate?

I'm not sure whether that CPU supports all of the instructions required for Win 10 X64. I see that it was released in 2004. That doesn't prove that it's incompatible, but its spec sheet doesn't mention NX (or DEP, as Intel calls it):

http://ark.intel.com/products/27093/...he-800-MHz-FSB

This sounds like an interesting exercise in updating the OS on ancient hardware.

Kbird · 04 Sep 2016

bobkn said:

A couple of things:

Isn't a Windows 10 license work for both X85 and X64? (I believe that you could do an upgrade installation from a 32 bit qualifying OS, and follow that with a change to 64 bit with a clean install. It'd have to be the same type of license: Home or Pro.)

If I understand the OP, she can't boot the PC from an X64 DVD. Shouldn't she be able to do that, regardless of whether the OS would actually install or activate?

The confusion is mine I think Bob , I assumed She was trying to upgrade Home to Pro.......not Pro x86 to Pro x64

She didn't elaborate on Errors etc but the Guy she quoted gave up an d went back to Win7 ....

If it's just booting x64 I would think perhaps a Secureboot/UEFI/CSM/EFI problem maybe? my x58 MB has an option to turn on EFI for OS's compatible or something like that (likely anticipating Win8 back then).

As for the processor yes , that's why I wanted Her to run CoreInfo , as just cos you can turn it on in the Bios does not mean it is active.

KB

Kbird · 04 Sep 2016

Well looking at the link you posted CV. it needs NX (VT-x or VT-d) ie Virtualization Tech.

NX helps your processor guard against malicious software, adding more stringent security for 64-bit processors. NX support will be indicated by either “VT-x” or “VT-d”.

and according to Bob's link I just looked at , it does not support that.....

Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡

No

64-bit Intel Processor 3.00D GHz, 1M Cache, 800 MHz FSB Specifications

cereberus · 05 Sep 2016

Kbird said:

That is not the issue from what I can see , you can not upgrade 32bit windows to 64 bit windows without paying for a 64bit Version AFAIK, unless you somehow got 32bit PRO by accident somehow when you got the Upgrade to Win10 , then you maybe able to update to Pro 64bit , with the 64bit Key you already own from win7 or 8.

KB

This is not correct at all. The licence is independent of the bit type. The ONLY restriction is that you cannot upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit or vice versa. You have to do a clean install.

Kbird · 05 Sep 2016

Kbird said:

The confusion is mine I think Bob , I assumed She was trying to upgrade Home to Pro.......not Pro x86 to Pro x64

As for the processor yes , that's why I wanted Her to run CoreInfo , as just cos you can turn it on in the Bios does not mean it is active.

KB

cereberus said:

This is not correct at all. The licence is independent of the bit type. The ONLY restriction is that you cannot upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit or vice versa. You have to do a clean install.

Yes I said the Confusion was mine.... ^^^^

but now I think Her Processor does not support Virtualization which is needed

cereberus · 05 Sep 2016

Kbird said:

Well looking at the link you posted CV. it needs NX (VT-x or VT-d) ie Virtualization Tech.

NX helps your processor guard against malicious software, adding more stringent security for 64-bit processors. NX support will be indicated by either “VT-x” or “VT-d”.

and according to Bob's link I just looked at , it does not support that.....

Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡

No

64-bit Intel Processor 3.00D GHz, 1M Cache, 800 MHz FSB Specifications

You really are creating confusion with your incorrect posts in this thread

NX is different to VT-X!

Many 64bit cpus are NX compatible (most in fact unless really old).

VT-X compatible means the device is capable of running virtual machines. A lot of older 64bit pcs could not. Even newer machines with low end processors are not always VT-X compatible.

Kbird · 05 Sep 2016

cereberus said:

You really are creating confusion with your incorrect posts in this thread

NX is different to VT-X!

Many 64bit cpus are NX compatible (most in fact unless really old).

VT-X compatible means the device is capable of running virtual machines. A lot of older 64bit pcs could not. Even newer machines with low end processors are not always VT-X compatible.

I am only reading the Article She Quoted..........it is not my info ............ and why i asked her to run CoreInfo..... but I read elsewhere VT-d is needed for NX ?...........so I don't know ? I don't profess to be an Expert , I just google when I need too....

How to Fix: CPU Not Compatible with Windows 10 Error | www.infopackets.com

This post my help some .......scroll down for a possible fix

Windows 10 installation failed due to CPU issue | Windows 10 Forums

you apparently know best so I will stay out of your way C.

KB

bobkn · 05 Sep 2016

Kbird said:

Well looking at the link you posted CV. it needs NX (VT-x or VT-d) ie Virtualization Tech.

NX helps your processor guard against malicious software, adding more stringent security for 64-bit processors. NX support will be indicated by either “VT-x” or “VT-d”.

and according to Bob's link I just looked at , it does not support that.....

Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡

No

64-bit Intel Processor 3.00D GHz, 1M Cache, 800 MHz FSB Specifications

Maybe. The archive does not explicitly say anything about DEP (NX). The OP posted that she was able to turn it on in the BIOS settings, which indicates that it's present. (I hope.)

Slartybart · 05 Sep 2016

ChristineV said:

My system has 2 Xeon 64-bit processors. I wish I could switch to 64 bits and use my 4 Gb of RAM.
I upgraded the BIOS to the latest (2007).

I checked the requirements given here: How to Upgrade from 32-Bit to 64-Bit in Windows 10

CPU-Z does not show NX setting although I enabled it in the BIOS.

What should I try next?

Always try to check requirements at the vendor site, in this case Microsoft.

You said you turned NX on in BIOS ... your CPU must support the instruction

EMT64 is the equivalent of PAE

The nitty gritty ...

Windows 10 Specifications System Requirements | Microsoft

Secure boot requires firmware that supports UEFI v2.3.1 Errata B and has the Microsoft Windows Certification Authority in the UEFI signature database.
Client Hyper-V requires a 64-bit system with second level address translation (SLAT) capabilities and additional 2 GB of RAM (Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise only).
To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to support CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF.

The last bullet in the requirements tells me that your hardware does not support Win10 x64.

You can boot, but as soon as the install starts, nada, nuttin, Kaput. It would be better to fail gracefully, but.....

Coreinfo, as requested by Kbird, should confirm that.

Aside from the bit depth question though ...
Win10 32-bit does see 4GB Ram.

What does CPU-Z show ?

It might be possible to upgrade your CPU, but since the machine is really old, you're probably better off getting newer technology - a new machine or rebuilding the old one with new Mobo, GPU, CPU, Wifi, PwrSupply, etc.