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  1.    01 Aug 2016 #1
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Definitive Answer: Is the free upgrade really expired?


    @Kari, @simrick,

    Ok. So there's this "rumor" floating around that the free upgrade has been "extended" by Microsoft. So I did a little experiment on my custom built computer that has never had Windows 10 Home on it before. Here's the results:

    Clean install of Windows 10 Home build 14393 from an ISO file captured from a computer that did the insider upgrade - no activation:

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Name:	Unactivated.JPG 
Views:	219 
Size:	54.1 KB 
ID:	93493

    Here's the product key to be tested:

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Name:	ProductKey.JPG 
Views:	219 
Size:	36.3 KB 
ID:	93494

    Here's the change product key screen in progress of checking it:

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Name:	Change key.JPG 
Views:	22 
Size:	39.5 KB 
ID:	93495

    And the result? - Exactly the same as would have occurred on July 28th:

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Name:	Activated2.JPG 
Views:	23 
Size:	56.4 KB 
ID:	93496

    Further proof, slmgr /dlv result:

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Name:	DLV.JPG 
Views:	218 
Size:	55.2 KB 
ID:	93499

    So the definitive answer is that the Microsoft activation server is working on 8/1/2016 at 7:30PM 1.5 hours North of Microsoft in Stanwood, WA just exactly the same as it worked on July 28th.
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  2.    02 Aug 2016 #2
    Join Date : Apr 2016
    Iowa, USA
    Posts : 662
    Windows 10 1703 Pro x64 (Creators Update)

    Well, I guess the rumor is true! Thanks for sharing!
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  3.    02 Aug 2016 #3
    Join Date : Dec 2015
    Posts : 5,407
    Windows10

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    @Kari, @simrick,

    Ok. So there's this "rumor" floating around that the free upgrade has been "extended" by Microsoft. So I did a little experiment on my custom built computer that has never had Windows 10 Home on it before. Here's the results:

    Clean install of Windows 10 Home build 14393 from an ISO file captured from a computer that did the insider upgrade - no activation:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Unactivated.JPG 
Views:	219 
Size:	54.1 KB 
ID:	93493

    Here's the product key to be tested:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	ProductKey.JPG 
Views:	219 
Size:	36.3 KB 
ID:	93494

    Here's the change product key screen in progress of checking it:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Change key.JPG 
Views:	22 
Size:	39.5 KB 
ID:	93495

    And the result? - Exactly the same as would have occurred on July 28th:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Activated2.JPG 
Views:	23 
Size:	56.4 KB 
ID:	93496

    Further proof, slmgr /dlv result:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DLV.JPG 
Views:	218 
Size:	55.2 KB 
ID:	93499

    So the definitive answer is that the Microsoft activation server is working on 8/1/2016 at 7:30PM 1.5 hours North of Microsoft in Stanwood, WA just exactly the same as it worked on July 28th.
    The key () question is for how long but but we have no way of knowing.

    Probably just a hidden grace period until RS1 is establishexd?
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  4.    02 Aug 2016 #4
    Join Date : Jan 2014
    Posts : 1,385
    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) Insider 16291

    Interesting stuff - thanks for doing that test.
    Now I'm wondering what would happen if someone ran an upgrade install from a computer running Windows 8.x or 7.

    The GWX app reputedly works if you set the computer's date back (although I've not seen proof that it then activates) , but even without doing that, it might be possible that it activates when someone runs setup.exe from the ISO?
    Last edited by DavidY; 02 Aug 2016 at 03:29.
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  5.    02 Aug 2016 #5
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,746
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64
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  6.    02 Aug 2016 #6
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    Newport, South Wales, UK
    Posts : 1,698
    Windows 10 Pro x64 FCU - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing

    That is what I feared would happen - the people who are eligible for this offer will have to suffer delays and more issues due to greedy people Who decided that they didn't want to pay for windows 10, when they had already had a year to upgrade for free
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  7.    02 Aug 2016 #7
    Join Date : Feb 2016
    Maribor, Slovenia
    Posts : 8,200
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)

    Quote Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
    That is what I feared would happen - the people who are eligible for this offer will have to suffer delays and more issues due to greedy people Who decided that they didn't want to pay for windows 10, when they had already had a year to upgrade for free
    I'm not sure about greedy.. Should call them careless or something. Bet, there is fair amount of those just checking if it really works.
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  8.    02 Aug 2016 #8
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    Newport, South Wales, UK
    Posts : 1,698
    Windows 10 Pro x64 FCU - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing

    Greedy was the mildest term I was prepared to use for an action is basically theft of the software - and the touted excuse that Microsoft should have done more is as bad as saying that if someone accidentally leaves their car or house unlocked you can simply take what you want
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  9.    02 Aug 2016 #9
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,662
    Windows 10 Pro

    I wouldn't call this "definitive answer", especially when MS has done nothing to confirm this. On the contrary, they make it extremely clear in every possible way that the free upgrade has ended:

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    (Screenshot from https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...10-upgrade-faq)


    It might be as simple as MS getting systems down slowly or giving us a non-announced few days grace period. Anyway, any extensions to free upgrade are totally unannounced and not confirmed by MS.

    That being said, I made three tests this morning using a never used Windows 8 PRO retail product key on a Hyper-V virtual machine:


    1. Installed Windows 8.1 PRO with generic key, did not activate it. Tried upgrade using Windows 10 PRO ISO, the product key was not accepted, upgrade not successful, Windows 10 was not activated
    2. Installed Windows 8.1 PRO with generic key, activated it with the above mentioned key. Tried upgrade using Windows 10 PRO ISO, upgrade asked for a valid key, upgrade not successful, Windows 10 was not activated
    3. Clean installed Windows 10 PRO skipping product key, when on desktop tried activation from Settings app using the Windows 8.1 PRO key, Windows 10 was activated

    Kari
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  10.    02 Aug 2016 #10
    Join Date : Jan 2014
    Posts : 1,385
    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) Insider 16291

    It's not good if the process is made harder for people using assistive technologies.

    However I have some sympathy for some people who didn't upgrade because they were waiting for their hardware manufacturer to provide Windows 10 drivers. These people didn't have a the full year, and in some cases would have tried to upgrade regardless at the last minute when those Win 10 drivers never appeared.
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