Windows 10: Definitive Answer: Is the free upgrade really expired?

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  1.    05 Aug 2016 #81

    Kari said: View Post
    Give me a few minutes, I just spent a perfectly good MSDN retail key to show I am right, video is encoding as we speak. I feel that without absolute proof I cannot make you to understand this.

    Will post definitive proof here in few minutes.
    No offense Kari, but you are incorrect. Alphanumeric is correct - not all windows 10 licences give digital licences.

    In fact, now free period has ended, majority of new licences (from now on) will revert to product key activation, except in cases where a user specifically buys a Windows 10 licence from the MS Store.
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       05 Aug 2016 #82

    cereberus said: View Post
    No offense Kari, but you are incorrect. Alphanumeric is correct - not all windows 10 licences give digital licences.

    In fact, now free period has ended, majority of new licences (from now on) will revert to product key activation, except in cases where a user specifically buys a Windows 10 licence from the MS Store.
    Did you even bother to watch the video?
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  3.    05 Aug 2016 #83

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  4.    05 Aug 2016 #84

    Kari said: View Post
    Did you even bother to watch the video?
    Did that device already have a Home digital entitlement? And was that 1511 or 1607?
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  5.    05 Aug 2016 #85

    Kari said: View Post
    Did you even bother to watch the video?
    Activating a Windows 10 Home edition with a product key to obtain a digital license in no way shape or form proves that every edition of Windows will behave the same way. Just like the repeated use of a product key that got blocked due to repeated use in no way shape or form proved that a Windows 7/8/8.1 product key would get blocked due to an upgrade to Windows 10 - I remember that false "experiment" being conducted a year ago as "proof" of a false theory. One year later, history is repeating itself.
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  6.    05 Aug 2016 #86

    Kari said: View Post
    Did you even bother to watch the video?
    Just watched it (my internet is slow) and what you have done is not clear to me.

    Perhaps you could try this:-

    On a pc which has never had windows 10 installed ever, install windows 10 and activate using a windows 10 key NOT a 7/8 key.

    Then wipe drive and reinstall from scratch without entering any key. It will say there is no valid digital licence, and require a product key.

    It is possible MS have changed things and now give a digital licence even if product key activated but that is new. If that is the case, then we have learnt something new, and I accept I am wrong.
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  7.    05 Aug 2016 #87

    cereberus said: View Post
    Perhaps you could try this:-

    On a pc which has never had windows 10 installed ever, install windows 10 and activate using a windows 10 key NOT a 7/8 key.
    Heck, I would like to see the product key that Kari used in the video ran through Showkey to determine what type of product key it was and what version of Windows it was for. A Windows 7/8/8.1 product key absolutely would activate exactly like that.
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  8.    05 Aug 2016 #88

    My whole point was in 1511, I had no digital entitlement, but when I upgraded to 1607 I did. Video proves nothing. My screen shots were from a clean install of 1511 on a PC that never had education installed. If what you say is true Kari, why does it show activated with a product key? I'm just waiting to see if it auto updates to 1607. If it doesn't by tomorrow morning I will do it manually. Then recheck activation.
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       05 Aug 2016 #89

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Did that device already have a Home digital entitlement? And was that 1511 or 1607?
    cereberus said: View Post
    Just watched it (my internet is slow) and what you have done is not clear to me.

    Perhaps you could try this:-

    On a pc which has never had windows 10 installed ever, install windows 10 and activate using a windows 10 key NOT a 7/8 key.

    Then wipe drive and reinstall from scratch without entering any key. It will say there is no valid digital licence, and require a product key.

    It is possible MS have changed things and now give a digital licence even if product key activated but that is new. If that is the case, then we have learnt something new, and I accept I am wrong.
    Oh s**t! You guys don't give up. That was a clean install on a brand new virtual machine. You can see this at 1:41:

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    Machine clearly has no digital license, nor product key given. No activation at all, first ever Windows 10 installation on that machine.

    And this is the result 45 seconds later when that machine is activated first time ever, with a retail Windows 10 valid and original key:

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    Of course I used version 1607, that is now the official current release. What had the point been if I had used outdated Windows version?

    What next? Hints about me faking the video? Don't forget my bet offer, to repeat this in live broadcast and who's wrong pays one W10 Pro retail
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  10.    05 Aug 2016 #90

    cereberus said: View Post
    Just watched it (my internet is slow) and what you have done is not clear to me.

    Perhaps you could try this:-

    On a pc which has never had windows 10 installed ever, install windows 10 and activate using a windows 10 key NOT a 7/8 key.

    Then wipe drive and reinstall from scratch without entering any key. It will say there is no valid digital licence, and require a product key.

    It is possible MS have changed things and now give a digital licence even if product key activated but that is new. If that is the case, then we have learnt something new, and I accept I am wrong.
    I think its changed since the release of the anniversary edition. More of a glitch IMHO. I didn't get the digital entitlement for my education install until I did the upgrade to the anniversary edition.
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