Definitive Answer: Is the free upgrade really expired?

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  1. NavyLCDR's Avatar
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       #41

    and in addition, @cereberus, there was also the announcement they would continue the free upgrade for assistive technology users. Think of what they would have had to do to code the activation servers to accept only those requests for new digital licenses and reject all others. Seems like it would save them a whole lot of money to just leave the activation servers on the way they were and put up a "smokescreen" website.
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  2. Superfly's Avatar
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       #42

    Yup, DE is still available as free upgrade - MS has never been consistent vis-a-vis PR and implementation...I can't see a major corp. overlooking something like this without some measure of intent.


    Tested with a new VM and unused Win 7 Retail key.
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  3. DeaconFrost's Avatar
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       #43

    For what it's worth, add me to the list of those who can confirm. I did a clean install on a friend's laptop last night who's hard drive died. It was with a brand new blank drive, and the laptop never ran anything other then the Windows 7 Home it shipped with. After install, I typed in the OEM key on the laptop itself, and it activated. Several reboots later, it is still showing as activated.
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  4. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #44

    Hi there

    It's STILL working today (Aug 03 Isl time 19.23) -- using old TechNet keys. I don't know for OEM stuff.
    I suspect this will be rectified shortly as soon as Ms has got the mega amount of downloaders of Windows build 1607 out of the way.

    Cheers
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  5. NavyLCDR's Avatar
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    Well, getting ready to see if it still works tonight after work. I'm getting my new stick computer tonight and will be trying to activate a new upgrade to Windows 10 Pro on it. I'm going to really bite the bullet hard and install a Windows 8.1 Pro on it and attempt to upgrade 8.1 to 10.
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  6. Posts : 1,520
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       #46

    NavyLCDR said:
    Well, getting ready to see if it still works tonight after work. I'm getting my new stick computer tonight and will be trying to activate a new upgrade to Windows 10 Pro on it. I'm going to really bite the bullet hard and install a Windows 8.1 Pro on it and attempt to upgrade 8.1 to 10.
    Good luck!
    It might be interesting to run gatherosstate to save the relevant file along the way, in case the straight upgrade doesn't work and that technique does.
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  7. cereberus's Avatar
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    NavyLCDR said:
    Well, getting ready to see if it still works tonight after work. I'm getting my new stick computer tonight and will be trying to activate a new upgrade to Windows 10 Pro on it. I'm going to really bite the bullet hard and install a Windows 8.1 Pro on it and attempt to upgrade 8.1 to 10.
    I am willing to bet both will work.
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  8. cereberus's Avatar
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       #48

    Getting well aired now. Paul Thurrott is one of the better journalists around.

    You Can Still Use a Windows 7/8.x Product Key to Activate Windows 10 - Thurrott.com

    Also respected Mary Jo Foley :-

    Windows 10 free upgrade is still available using Windows 7 and 8 product keys | ZDNet

    Here is her take which echoes my belief:

    "My guess is it just might take Microsoft some time to phase out availability of the free Windows 10 bits, the same way company officials said it likely would take some time for them to phase out the Get Windows 10 app and prompts. Or maybe Microsoft execs decided to make the phase out more gradual than they said publicly in case there was a big backlash (in spite of the many notices and prompts alerting users of the pending end of the free update offer.)"
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  9. Kari's Avatar
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       #49

    cereberus said:
    Getting well aired now. Paul Thurrott is one of the better journalists around.

    You Can Still Use a Windows 7/8.x Product Key to Activate Windows 10 - Thurrott.com
    I agree with him in this:

    Note: Please understand that the loophole that allows this to work could (and should, I think) close at any time: All Microsoft has to do is to is turn it off from the cloud, it wouldn’t even require an update to Windows 10.
    ... and:

    As is always the case with Microsoft, however, a little communication would be nice. I’d really like to see the firm explain why this works and when—or if—it will stop doing so.
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  10. Posts : 31
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    EightK said:
    Right, so if I'm reading this correctly, MS' activation servers have not been switched off, meaning that if I was to clean install W10 and use a W7 / 8.1 key during install (or via activate after fully installed?) - I should be able to - just like before the July 29th deadline?

    The reason I'm asking is because I'm having second thoughts about one of my licenses being tied (via digital license) to a particular configuration (more specifcally the MB). Would I be able to perform a clean install and try to activate W10 using the 8 pro license which has alrwady been used to activate the earlier W10 install?

    Also, it is thought that there's no link / connection between the W7 / 8 product keys used and the digitally licensed W10 installation, so for testing purposes, I assume I could switch between two drives (one for each W7 / 8 and W10) until I settle on which to keep? They wouldn't technically be in use concurrently - even if they were, could MS detect this and invalid one or both activations?
    Can anyone confirm please?
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