Windows 10: Definitive Answer: Is the free upgrade really expired?
I would say it would be more likely that the user has obsolete hardware.
Well Kari and Nigel have pretty well covered my opinion.
Microsoft has given users of computer and the hardware manufactures a year to get their act together.
If a computer has so called disabilities then upgrade your hardware.
I have no idea what disability a person could have that would stop them from the free Upgrade with a year to do so.
Maybe eye sight problems for a year. I have many disabilities; to many to mention but I can see, and use the mouse and keyboard.
Yes I have tried many versions of W-10 using the normal method everybody else has used.
No I will not use the new (assistive technologies). I as others have had a year to make up our minds. It's not that Microsoft has kept the free upgrade a secret.
Those that might ask; I will just buy W-10 when I'm in the mood. I will use the word (stealing), when one does not qualified and takes something for free I call it stealing.
Right, so if I'm reading this correctly, MS' activation servers have not been switched off, meaning that if I was to clean install W10 and use a W7 / 8.1 key during install (or via activate after fully installed?) - I should be able to - just like before the July 29th deadline?
The reason I'm asking is because I'm having second thoughts about one of my licenses being tied (via digital license) to a particular configuration (more specifcally the MB). Would I be able to perform a clean install and try to activate W10 using the 8 pro license which has alrwady been used to activate the earlier W10 install?
Also, it is thought that there's no link / connection between the W7 / 8 product keys used and the digitally licensed W10 installation, so for testing purposes, I assume I could switch between two drives (one for each W7 / 8 and W10) until I settle on which to keep? They wouldn't technically be in use concurrently - even if they were, could MS detect this and invalid one or both activations?
Finnish but not finished
This is getting interesting. The test vm 3. in above quote, I now downloaded Anniversary Update and tried to upgrade. Activation failed, I was told activation is not possible.
Next I clean installed that machine, using Anniversary Update ISO. Activation not possible. Restored machine clean installing the 1511 version I installed earlier today, activation successful.
Short: I was able to install 1511 this morning in clean install using a Windows 8.1 Pro key. I can repeat that, clean install 1511 skipping the key, machine will be activated. In-place upgrade to 1607 or clean install with 1607 install media, machine loses its activation.
This is getting confusing on some able to activate & others are not able to activate. I am not talking about downloading the assistive technologies iso.
@alphanumeric I know you were planning on doing some testing some people have already tested that. Were you also going to do an upgrade from a windows 7 oemslp to windows 10 that has never been upgrade? I suspect those may still work, because shutting off the oemslp key would cause problem with both windows 7 & windows 10 users.
So one theory would be that version 1511, and its installer, retains the ability to activate on a Windows 8.x (and presumably Windows 7) product key.
But because 1607 was always going to be released after the upgrade deadline, the functionality to accept those keys was deleted.
Finnish but not finished
I don't want to give any "definitive answer" before I have tested all scenarios at least a few more times, but your conclusion is in about same ballpark than mine.
So does that mean the windows 7 & 8.x keys are stored in iso? I find that very interesting. I still see a few issues with anniversary update not getting activated for those that did the upgrade before July 29, 2016 we will see what happens.
I don't think our views are that far apart in reality:
I think this is the key for me:
... but we shouldn't blame them for what, in hindsight, now looks like a bad choice.
Agreed - it's a joint effort between hardware manufacturers and the users to upgrade within that year, and some users were left with less time in that year than others.
Layback Bear said:
If you were unlucky enough to have bought, in the past, hardware from a manufacturer who didn't support Windows 10, or took a long time to release drivers, then you didn't have a year to upgrade.
I seem to remember one manufacturer (perhaps Sony) who recommended in July 2015 that their users shouldn't upgrade to Windows 10 at that point, and wait a few months while the manufacturer addressed some issues. And of course some manufacturers never issued drivers so users had to try and workaround themselves at the last minute.
I'm not saying users of such systems should try to workaround by saying they use assistive technologies (unless it's true of course) or that Microsoft should have done anything different.
But we shouldn't be adopting a "you had a year to upgrade, tough luck" attitude either because some of these users really didn't have that year. I think we should be kinder than that.
You guys are killing me here! Look at my post #1. Especially the last screenshot posted. Notice which build of Windows 10 I used in my test. Version 1607, build 13493.0.
If you did, please post your local time and your timezone. Upgrade or fresh install?
Note that we are talking here only about systems that have not been previously upgraded to Win 10 and then rolled back to Win 7 or 8.
I don't want to update to W10 yet and I have read that I cannot keep my current W7 installation along with a free upgraded a W10 from the same W7 key.
So, if I do the free upgrade from W7 to W10 and then go back to W7, will I keep the free upgrade...
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It seems obvious that M$ has given this free upgrade so users can point out its shortcomings.
We are helping them develop their new OS and for that we get it free of charge. OK. That's a fair exchange.
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