Windows 10: Should I Be Concerned and Extra Cautious

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  1. Posts : 8,212
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       28 Jul 2016 #61

    No I haven't looked in depth, but I will now if you can give me a little time.
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  2. Posts : 114
    win 7 pro x64 (upgrade from XP/Pro OEM)
    Thread Starter
       28 Jul 2016 #62

    It says:

    The ability to easily upgrade the firmware is probably the most important feature in a toolbox and the Storage Executive is pretty straightforward with that. It automatically checks for updates and also features the release notes, so the end-user will know what has been changed in the newer firmware.

    One image reads that it will "update the firmware on all drives in the system" so somehow I need to get the program to run from the thumb drive. Perhaps it is not bootable?

    thanks

    baumgrenze
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  3. Posts : 114
    win 7 pro x64 (upgrade from XP/Pro OEM)
    Thread Starter
       28 Jul 2016 #63

    Also, the last paragraph in that image discusses a manual firmware update.

    I thought I'd downloaded that.

    I have a bootable rescue disk from Macrium. Would that work to get me up and running so that I could switch to the thumb drive?

    I could copy the installed exe, but I can't see anything in the new Crucial folder under Programs.

    thanks

    baumgrenze
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  4. Posts : 114
    win 7 pro x64 (upgrade from XP/Pro OEM)
    Thread Starter
       28 Jul 2016 #64

    I made a folder on the 16GB thumb and I'm installing Crucial Storage Executive on it as I write.

    I think it caused the install on C: to abort. I hope this does not create a messy uninstall project. The Wizard ran a long time with lots of description flashing by at the bottom.

    Can I shut down, disconnect all but the empty thumb drive, boot from the Macrium recovery CD, and navigate to the thumb drive?

    My guess is that this will all be in a WinPE command prompt where I will need drive designations and navigation skills I doubt I can summon up.

    thanks

    baumgrenze
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  5. Posts : 8,212
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       28 Jul 2016 #65

    This is what Crucial says about the firmware upgrade

    WARNING: As with all firmware updates, it is strongly recommended that you backup or make copies of all important files before performing this update. This firmware update process is done entirely at your own risk. If performed correctly, there will be no loss of system or user data on the drive. However, if the firmware process is interrupted for any reason, your solid state drive may not function properly. If this update is done on a notebook computer, it is strongly recommended that power be supplied by the AC power adapter.
    SOURCE

    As I understand it, you are unable to make a Macrium image that will verify. If that is the case, just to be safe, I would transfer the Operating system first to another drive, then do the firmware update. It says it is a non destructive update if done correctly. However, knowing computers, it is advisable to make certain you don't lose your OS.

    Let me give you 2 options.
    1.) you could clone your current OS to the blank drive, remove your current OS drive and run the update tool to upgrade your firmware, thus saving your current OS drive in case of an accident.

    2.) Do a clean install on the new drive, with all other drives disconnected. Don't worry about updates, activation or anything else. Install the Crucial Storage Executive software from Crucial and do the firmware update. Once the firmware is updated, the drive can be wiped clean easily and you can proceed with the plans you and @simrick made. If the firmware update destroys the data on the drive, no harm, no foul. It won't matter.

    Whichever option you choose, once you start the Firmware upgrade, Do Not Stop it. It can brick your drive.
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  6. Posts : 8,212
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       28 Jul 2016 #66

    Also, be aware that the Anandtech article is about version 1.0 of the Storage Executive software. The current version is 3.30. So, there have been a lot of changes and upgrades to the Storage Executive software since that article was written in April of last year.
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  7. Posts : 114
    win 7 pro x64 (upgrade from XP/Pro OEM)
    Thread Starter
       28 Jul 2016 #67

    Just so I understand.

    In option 1, I try using Macrium Reflect to clone C: to the new drive, then boot from that as the only drive connected and update the firmware.

    If that works then I can:

    a) use the updater that I keep getting nagged about, or

    b) do a clean install.

    I gather that my idea of using Macrium rescue disk to boot, then the Crucial software on the thumb is too complex?

    thanks

    baumgrenze
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  8. Posts : 8,212
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       28 Jul 2016 #68

    No sir, I don't believe the Macrium Recovery CD will help at all in updating the Firmware.
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  9. Posts : 8,212
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       28 Jul 2016 #69

    baumgrenze said: View Post
    Just so I understand.

    In option 1, I try using Macrium Reflect to clone C: to the new drive, then boot from that as the only drive connected and update the firmware.

    If that works then I can:

    a) use the updater that I keep getting nagged about, or

    b) do a clean install.

    I gather that my idea of using Macrium rescue disk to boot, then the Crucial software on the thumb is too complex?

    thanks

    baumgrenze
    Yes sir, that is the first option, although I am not sure what you mean about being nagged

    I don't recall whether you and simrick were wanting to do a clean install or just upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10. If you were wanting to transfer the OS and then upgrade it, but wanted the Firmware update first, then this option would put you where you would like to be, would it not?
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  10. Posts : 114
    win 7 pro x64 (upgrade from XP/Pro OEM)
    Thread Starter
       28 Jul 2016 #70

    I think I just 'blew' the clean install option.

    I forgot I had the Win10 ISO on the new disk.

    I did the Macrium Reflect clone to the disk and it warned me I would loose the file. My bad.

    So I guess I update the firmware on the clone and try to use the MS update on it. If it works, good. If it does not, there's always Win7.

    thanks

    baumgrenze
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