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  1.    03 Jul 2016 #11
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 9,414
    Windows 10 Pro

    That is true that insider preview allows dual booting.
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  2.    04 Jul 2016 #12
    Join Date : Jun 2016
    Fairfield County Ohio
    Posts : 19
    windows 10

    Internet Security


    Hey there ianmozzy,
    Just wanted to pop in here after looking at your listed system setup. I don't know how you use your computer, but a word of caution:
    If you do any banking, purchasing, or anything else where you give your personal information online, Windows Defender is not enough.
    It started out life as "Big AS" which was for years the best antispyware program out there. Microsoft bought it and turned it into Windows Defender. Later they added a basic antivirus to it. On MS website, they even call it BASIC. It is so you can get your machine up and running, updated, and a proper Internet Security program installed.
    I have used; Kaspersky (for the last 4 years, and my fav), Bit Defender (another top rated fav), AVAST, ESET NOD32, F-Secure, AVG, Norton, Trend Micro, McAfee. I hate Mcafee and would never recommend it to anyone. I listed them in the order of MY preference. Others will have their favorites.
    The main thing, is to get a good Internet Security program and not just an antivirus program. ( Plus Malware protection.)
    Since 1996 I have only been bitten by one virus, and I go a lot of places I shouldn't and do things I shouldn't. Nothing illegal, just high-risk surfing, But I know how to protect myself. Most people don't.
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  3.    04 Jul 2016 #13
    Join Date : Jun 2016
    Fairfield County Ohio
    Posts : 19
    windows 10

    Wait a minute, I jumped the gun.
    I was looking a someone else's setup thinking I was looking at yours.
    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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  4.    04 Jul 2016 #14
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 9,414
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Chezler View Post
    If you do any banking, purchasing, or anything else where you give your personal information online, Windows Defender is not enough.
    A lot of us members here would disagree with you.
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  5.    04 Jul 2016 #15
    Join Date : Jun 2016
    Fairfield County Ohio
    Posts : 19
    windows 10

    Unless they have converted Win.Def. to a full internet security program, and pay someone to stay on top of it, I would never trust it, except for basic surfing. Most of the work I do on OP's Computers is ridding them of bugs and viruses, and setting them up so they don't get bit again.
    I am fairly new to W10, maybe things are changing, I doubt it. Viruses are getting meaner because virus writers are getting smarter and more wide spread.
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  6.    04 Jul 2016 #16
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 9,414
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Chezler View Post
    Unless they have converted Win.Def. to a full internet security program, and pay someone to stay on top of it, I would never trust it, except for basic surfing. Most of the work I do on OP's Computers is ridding them of bugs and viruses, and setting them up so they don't get bit again.
    I am fairly new to W10, maybe things are changing, I doubt it. Viruses are getting meaner because virus writers are getting smarter and more wide spread.
    I too have been asked to clean many friends' computers of malware and they all have the same thing in common - they've all got multiple anti-virus and anti-malware programs installed. I've got 11 Windows 10 computers at my house and I get an average of 1 malware problem on 1 computer per year (and I have 4 other computer users in my house that are not that aware of what they click on) and it is always cleaned by running Windows 10 built-in disk cleanup followed by a disk cleanup and registry scan with CCleaner.

    Paying attention to what you are clicking on is the most effective way of not getting infected with anything.
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  7.    04 Jul 2016 #17
    Join Date : Jun 2016
    Fairfield County Ohio
    Posts : 19
    windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    disk cleanup and registry scan with CCleaner.

    Paying attention to what you are clicking on is the most effective way of not getting infected with anything.
    Amen to that. And CCleaner goes on anything I touch. Then you have to teach people how to use it, then remind them to use it.
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  8.    05 Jul 2016 #18
    Join Date : Jul 2016
    Posts : 17
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter

    Thanks for all the info. I have decided not to upgrade my present windows 7 to 10.
    My best option is to purchase the retail version of windows 10.
    That way I could have a dual boot with windows 7 with two licences. One will be OEM windows 7 and the other WIndows 10 retail.
    Windows 10 retail I can take with me if upgrading my computer I understand.

    My only interest or windows 10 is for gaming purposes.
    I am going to keep windows 10 & whatever other OS strictly apart. so possibly do something like this for my next computer.

    2 Gaming Rigs, 1 Tower - Virtualized Gaming Build Log - YouTube
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  9.    05 Jul 2016 #19
    Join Date : Jul 2016
    Posts : 17
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter

    Hi
    I know exactly what you mean. I am careful when it comes to privacy.
    Originally I installed my OS, drivers, installed reliable software & updates. Also antivirus, did full check and installed my firewall.
    I use zonealarm firewall, which is not the best out there but good enough for me.
    Then made an image of the drive. It can be reinstalled whenever necessary.
    Wrote scripts to backup & restore saved games & Documents.
    The only issue right now is turning off the windows 7 updates until July 30th.

    As for any potentially risky internet surfing, I use virtualbox with linux installed.

    There is also the issue of privacy with windows 10, and will be very careful with that.

    My present computer seems secure.

    As for my next computer build, I may do something similar to this.

    2 Gaming Rigs, 1 Tower - Virtualized Gaming Build Log - YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by Chezler View Post
    Hey there ianmozzy,
    Just wanted to pop in here after looking at your listed system setup. I don't know how you use your computer, but a word of caution:
    If you do any banking, purchasing, or anything else where you give your personal information online, Windows Defender is not enough.
    It started out life as "Big AS" which was for years the best antispyware program out there. Microsoft bought it and turned it into Windows Defender. Later they added a basic antivirus to it. On MS website, they even call it BASIC. It is so you can get your machine up and running, updated, and a proper Internet Security program installed.
    I have used; Kaspersky (for the last 4 years, and my fav), Bit Defender (another top rated fav), AVAST, ESET NOD32, F-Secure, AVG, Norton, Trend Micro, McAfee. I hate Mcafee and would never recommend it to anyone. I listed them in the order of MY preference. Others will have their favorites.
    The main thing, is to get a good Internet Security program and not just an antivirus program. ( Plus Malware protection.)
    Since 1996 I have only been bitten by one virus, and I go a lot of places I shouldn't and do things I shouldn't. Nothing illegal, just high-risk surfing, But I know how to protect myself. Most people don't.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  10.    05 Jul 2016 #20
    Join Date : Dec 2015
    Posts : 5,993
    Windows10

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    It also violates the EULA to move the OEM Windows 7 to an upgraded motherboard. And it violates the rules of this forum to discuss or encourage doing so.
    I think it is time the Forum reviews the rules regarding this as MS have now brought out an official tool that permits exactly this.

    MS need to clarify if they have softened their stance.

    As a FORUM, I believe we meet our moral obligations by saying that an official tool exists for transfer of digital licences which is permissible to be used with digital licences upgraded from oem licence, for like for like mobo changes but as far as we understand still violates the EULA for mobo upgrades.

    This is not encouraging EULA violation but simply informing the user of his legal obligatations.

    For clarity - I believe this is a valid topic of conversation for Forum - I am not advocating EULA violation but believe as I said initially, the Forum needs to reexamine its policy in how this can be discussed.
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