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  1.    17 Apr 2015 #1
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    UK
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    W10 pro x64 and W8.1 x86

    W8.1 to W10 Upgrade installation taking far to long.


    I fancied trying the upgrade route, really as an educational exercise to see how well it would work, but am finding its way to slow. I suspect some process is running somewhere that is crippling the install procedure.

    My 8.1 install is a very compact 25gb installation that includes a handful of programs and around 8gb of user files and data.

    At the moment its showing 21% overall complete after more than two hours with the 'setup' currently at 71%. Its taking around 8 minutes for that to increase by 1%.

    This can't be right !
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  2.    17 Apr 2015 #2
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Posts : 729
    win 7 dual boot / 10

    Mooly
    It does not seem normal but has been happening to many members of this forum. I am one who left it upgrading all night long. Woke up in the morning and it had finished up.
    Last edited by Charlie; 17 Apr 2015 at 09:53.
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  3.    17 Apr 2015 #3
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    UK
    Posts : 1,071
    W10 pro x64 and W8.1 x86
    Thread Starter

    Thanks Charlie. Its now on 81% (the set up part) so I will let it proceed as there are still (lol) a few hours daylight left here. As an upgrade it has not come across as a good customer experience because of this.
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  4.    17 Apr 2015 #4
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    UK
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    W10 pro x64 and W8.1 x86
    Thread Starter

    Still churning away. Its on 100% complete (total progress) with all steps at 100% but its just seemingly stuck at this now. The HD light has not gone out for the last 6.5 hours.
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  5.    17 Apr 2015 #5
    Join Date : Apr 2015
    Port Neches, Texas
    Posts : 238
    Windows 10 Home

    My update download from 10041 to 10049 took 24 hours and installation took 7 hours. Consider yourself fortunate. BTW, if you see this in time, after the download is complete but before installation begins, disable your Internet connection for the completion of the install. You will save yourself about 10 GB of additional download and comparable HDD storage. AFIK, MS has not corrected the flaw in the 10049 ISO that downloads all the languages in the world!
    Last edited by cbwilsha; 17 Apr 2015 at 18:42.
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  6.    18 Apr 2015 #6
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    UK
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    W10 pro x64 and W8.1 x86
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    Thanks cbwilsha... things haven't worked out one bit trying this as an upgrade install over W8.1

    The initial download of the ISO took only 25 minutes or so. Then there was the 7.5 hour upgrade time but after all that it was still no good. When the W10 desktop finally appeared I still had the HDD pegged at 100%. Nothing was usable, even the recycle bin took around 30 secondsto open. The Windows button (or using Windows key) did nothing. For some unknown reason two folders (about Media Player ?) aimed at users in South Korea had appeared on the desktop. By right clicking the Windows icon I could eventually bring the restart option up. That just froze though and so I had to do a forced shutdown. On reboot it was still the same, 100% HDD usage. Also the graphics were as if a default driver was installed, all a bit large and blurry.

    In the end I had no option but to restore my W8.1 disk image.
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  7.    18 Apr 2015 #7
    Join Date : Apr 2015
    Port Neches, Texas
    Posts : 238
    Windows 10 Home

    I was sorry to hear you are having so much trouble getting W10 to work for you. One problem might be, judging by the details in your profile, you are trying to install a 32 bit W10 on a 64 bit W8.1 machine.

    In any event, I would just start over. However, at this point, you might want to just wait a few days for the next Build which appears to be coming soon and spare yourself all the bugs and anomalies still existing on Build 10049.

    BTW, the two Korean Folders were legitimate MS inclusions having been required by the South Korean government but got included in English downloads by mistake. If you try build 10049 again, just delete them when you are first setting up your finished install. They are NOT malware or a virus. Presumably they will not appear in English versions of future builds.

    Good Luck with whatever you decide.
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  8.    18 Apr 2015 #8
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Central Florida
    Posts : 346
    Win 7 Pro/32, Win 10 Pro/64/32

    Taking a step back..... to when we started Beta Testing Windows 8. it was the recommendation by Microsoft and many old Beta Testers, that the Beta versions of Windows 8 NEVER be installed over the existing (main) OS on the computer.
    That was good advise, because there was NO backup route if the new OS install went badly. And it often did!!!
    People who had been using Windows 7, generally disliked Windows 8.

    On the old Windows 8 forum, we posted and reposted the warning to NEVER install a beta test version of W-8 over the main OS on the same computer. And, every day someone who didn't adhere to the warning, would come on asking how to get back to Win-7 or whatever their original OS was. The only return path was a complete re-install of the original OS.

    Now here we are, several years later, testing a brand new OS, with new builds coming out every few weeks, and again people are trying to install the Beta Test version (Technical Preview) right over the top of their everyday OS that they depend on.
    For the life of me, I don't understand MS even allowing that, let alone advising it. "That does not compute!" quote "The Robot".

    So far, I have every released build of Windows 10, both 32 bit and 64 bit, when available, on DVD's for future reference.
    For each TP version, I always install on a fresh, formatted, partition and the install only takes about 30 minutes, more or less.
    When a new build is available, I download it, burn it to a DVD and install it, again letting the installer reformat the C: partition for the new build.

    A clean install, like you'd have on a brand new PC, is the only true way to test a new OS. Anything else, is questionable at best.
    Just as an experiment, I did install build 10056 as an upgrade to build 10051, and the result was the loss of my AV program and a few other inconsistencies. I had to do a clean install of build 10056 to clean up the mess. It was just an experiment, and I won't do it again. [I have one laptop that I use only for OS testing, and I never use my main PC for such things.] So my precious data and programs are never at risk.

    Just the thoughts of an old Tech.

    Cheers mates!
    TechnoMage
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  9.    18 Apr 2015 #9
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    UK
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    W10 pro x64 and W8.1 x86
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by cbwilsha View Post
    I was sorry to hear you are having so much trouble getting W10 to work for you............
    Good Luck with whatever you decide.
    Thanks. It wasn't the best Windows experience I must admit.

    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoMage View Post
    Taking a step back..... to when we started Beta Testing Windows 8. it was the recommendation by Microsoft and many old Beta Testers, that the Beta versions of Windows 8 NEVER be installed over the existing (main) OS on the computer.
    That was good advise, because there was NO backup route if the new OS install went badly. And it often did!!!
    People who had been using Windows 7, generally disliked Windows 8.

    On the old Windows 8 forum, we posted and reposted the warning to NEVER install a beta test version of W-8 over the main OS on the same computer. And, every day someone who didn't adhere to the warning, would come on asking how to get back to Win-7 or whatever their original OS was. The only return path was a complete re-install of the original OS.

    Now here we are, several years later, testing a brand new OS, with new builds coming out every few weeks, and again people are trying to install the Beta Test version (Technical Preview) right over the top of their everyday OS that they depend on.
    For the life of me, I don't understand MS even allowing that, let alone advising it. "That does not compute!" quote "The Robot".
    Just the thoughts of an old Tech.

    Cheers mates!
    TechnoMage
    Lol, can't really argue with any of that. My wanting to try the upgrade path was really just for curiosity... after all if W10 is going to be free to W8/8.1 users its going to be an upgrade route that the majority take. And that time is getting ever closer, problems should be getting fixed.

    Personally I would never accept an upgrade, it would have to clean install every time. But I did want to see how it went.

    My return path took around an hour.
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  10.    18 Apr 2015 #10

    Mine took about 3 hours from Win8.1 to 10041 then another two hours to 10049.
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