Windows 10: The W10 update process is a big step backwards

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  1.    04 Apr 2015 #1

    The W10 update process is a big step backwards


    Maybe it is only me, but I have difficulties with this new update process.

    First they took it out of Control panel and made it only available in settings (although you can get it back in control panel by manipulating HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/WindowsUpdate/UX)

    Then they have this ridiculously small progress bar that is hardly visible - and if you happen to have a high contrast theme like me you don't see it at all.

    For mega downloads like a new build which can take hours, they give you no idea about the remaining time.

    There seems to be no way to uninstall updates - any update

    Nor have I found a way to hide incoming updates

    Defender definition updates fail on a regular basis.

    I hope all this is going to be fixed for the RTM because I would not want to work with a defunct update system like this.
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  2.    04 Apr 2015 #2

    W10 update process is a big step backwards


    You can do a clean install in 35 minutes and same machine you can do the update in 6.5 hours.
    which do you want.
    Just finished with 10049 and everything works great. only problem so far one drive error about too many drives and it took awhile to delete it to the point it disappeared.
    Larry
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  3.    04 Apr 2015 #3

    Clean install is OK. But in order to do that you have to first download the ESD. And then you still get a lot of updates - e.g. the Defender definition updates.
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  4.    04 Apr 2015 #4

    It's very easy to create the ISO from the ESD and I think it would be best to use that method if you're having issues with the update.

    Just my 2c
    Jeff
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  5.    04 Apr 2015 #5

    I don't have an issue with the updates per se. I just have issues how they designed the process.
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       04 Apr 2015 #6

    It's set up this way for the Technical Preview only. They want us to test what they choose, not what we may wish to choose.
    It's all written in the 'Eula-gy'.
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  7.    04 Apr 2015 #7

    Edwin, you imply that there will be a better system in the RTM. Let's hope you are right. We'll see. But for now it's a real pita.

    Example: Since several hours it is noodling to download the 10049 ESD. It gives no indication how much longer that is going to take..

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  8.    04 Apr 2015 #8

    whs said: View Post
    Maybe it is only me, but I have difficulties with this new update process.
    You mean Windows Update, not just "updates". It seems everyone is confused and think you mean the setup update.

    whs said: View Post
    First they took it out of Control panel and made it only available in settings (although you can get it back in control panel by manipulating HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/WindowsUpdate/UX)
    I may be mistaken, but I thought that was removed in 10041, and you could no longer get the old one back.

    whs said: View Post
    Then they have this ridiculously small progress bar that is hardly visible - and if you happen to have a high contrast theme like me you don't see it at all.
    I don't find it very small, but I can't comment on the contrast theme.

    whs said: View Post
    For mega downloads like a new build which can take hours, they give you no idea about the remaining time.
    There's no way it can know how long it will take, because the amount of time depends on so many different factors. Any estimate it would give would be a complete lie.

    whs said: View Post
    There seems to be no way to uninstall updates - any update
    You have never uninstalled updates from Windows Update... You do that through Programs and Features -> View Installed Updates.

    Unless you're talking about new builds which are not updates but upgrades, and you can use the "Go back to a previous version of windows" feature in Recovery.

    whs said: View Post
    Nor have I found a way to hide incoming updates
    This does seem to be missing, but is probably a side-effect of the fact that in TP all updates are mandatory and you can't select specific updates to install.

    whs said: View Post
    Defender definition updates fail on a regular basis.
    I haven't seen that. That suggest a problem with the upgrade. You might want to do a clean install.

    whs said: View Post
    I hope all this is going to be fixed for the RTM because I would not want to work with a defunct update system like this.
    Well, it would help if you had expectations that were similar to the old update system. The old one never let you uninstall updates, and never told you how long you had left, nor did it have an update progress bar that's very different from the current one, maybe a bit thinner.. but certainly just as wide and still plenty visible. Maybe the real problem is that it's not animated, like the Windows 7 version, so it draws less attention to itself.

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  9.    04 Apr 2015 #9

    whs said: View Post
    Edwin, you imply that there will be a better system in the RTM. Let's hope you are right. We'll see. But for now it's a real pita.

    Example: Since several hours it is noodling to download the 10049 ESD. It gives no indication how much longer that is going to take..

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    That is from a much earlier build. They changed that to the progress bar in my previous post.
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  10.    04 Apr 2015 #10

    Mystere said: View Post
    That is from a much earlier build. They changed that to the progress bar in my previous post.
    That is 10041 downloading 10049. It is still downloading - since 4 hours but I already got appr. 2.5GBs of the ESD.
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