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  1.    03 Apr 2016 #1
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    Upgrade from Win 7 and Windows 10 Anniversary Update edition


    I have held off going from Win 7 to Win 10 for a number of reasons, including several hardware upgrades over the last 6 months. (I actually have one more hardware upgrade I would like to do, going to a M.2 drive once a 500 GB drive comes out, which may or may not happen soon.) Not in a hurry as Win 7 is working fine.

    So, browsing this forum occasionally, I see the Windows 10 Anniversary Update is coming out soon-ish, no firm date. Plus, the end of the "free" upgrade period is also coming up.

    Is there any advantage to waiting and seeing if the Windows 10 Anniversary Update comes out first, and performing the upgrade on that version as opposed to doing an upgrade now, and then updating with the anniversary edition? It is possible that the free upgrade period could be extended a bit as well (not starting a rumor, just thinking) that could allow this to happen.
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  2.    03 Apr 2016 #2
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    Perhaps, upgrade now and get to know how Windows 10 works, so that by the time " anniversary update" comes along, you will enjoy and appreciate it more.

    Free upgrade period appears to be unchanged, at least for now. Nothing is definite. Never say never.
    Last edited by davidhk; 03 Apr 2016 at 14:52.
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  3.    03 Apr 2016 #3
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Yes, do it sooner for the sake of obtaining a digital entitlement on the machine, because, if the upgrade is not straightforward, you may lose out on the free upgrade if it takes too much time to sort it out.

    Forewarned is forearmed as they say.
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  4.    04 Apr 2016 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    Yes, do it sooner for the sake of obtaining a digital entitlement on the machine.
    Personally, just trying to avoid problems with the updates, particularly after hearing some of the issues encountered after reading through this section occasionally. I admit I am concerned with the possibility of some of these issues happening with my upgrade. At the same time, I acknowledge that most (?) upgrades are completed trouble free.

    If the Anniversary edition promises smoother or more issue free updates, I am compelled to wait.

    In either case, am expecting considerable noob user errors after the upgrade while learning the new system.
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  5.    04 Apr 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikerGuy View Post
    (I actually have one more hardware upgrade I would like to do, going to a M.2 drive once a 500 GB drive comes out, which may or may not happen soon.)
    Computer Parts, Laptops, Electronics, and More - Newegg.com has a number of 500GB or 512 GB M.2 SSDs for sale, including SATA III and PCI-E interfaces. If you refer to hardware availability in "which may or may not happen soon", they're already there.

    I haven't read anything that suggests that the "anniversary edition" will be a great leap better than 1511.

    Remember that online posts will not give you a clear picture of the reliability of the OS, or the safety of the upgrade. My experience is limited, but I have 3 PCs. One is a 2008 vintage laptop with an AMD CPU and an nVidia chipset. All 3 have been successfully upgraded to 10 without any hassle other than finding drivers for the laptop. I don't find 10 to be a compelling upgrade over 7 so far, but I like it much better than 8.
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  6.    04 Apr 2016 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    Computer Parts, Laptops, Electronics, and More - Newegg.com has a number of 500GB or 512 GB M.2 SSDs for sale, including SATA III and PCI-E interfaces. If you refer to hardware availability in "which may or may not happen soon", they're already there.

    I haven't read anything that suggests that the "anniversary edition" will be a great leap better than 1511.

    Remember that online posts will not give you a clear picture of the reliability of the OS, or the safety of the upgrade. My experience is limited, but I have 3 PCs. One is a 2008 vintage laptop with an AMD CPU and an nVidia chipset. All 3 have been successfully upgraded to 10 without any hassle other than finding drivers for the laptop. I don't find 10 to be a compelling upgrade over 7 so far, but I like it much better than 8.
    Bob,
    Thx for the update. I have been looking at the M.2 SSDs, and just haven't pulled the trigger. That may be one I do after the Win 10 thing, as Win 10 is finicky about the MB but not (apparently) the main drive.

    You are also right about online posts not being representative, and that most upgrades are probably trouble free. This is the 1st time I have ever been so concerned about potential issues with an OS change, and I date back to the 3.11 days.
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  7.    04 Apr 2016 #7
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Windows 10, build 10240, AKA RTM TH1 was released on 15 July to Windows Insiders, and within a day or so the ability to activate it was restricted to upgrades only, and not by entering a prerelease generic product key.

    On 29 July, it was released to the General Public, as an upgradeable update from Windows 7 and 8x.

    It was only in November that TH1 was released generally that allowed Activation using valid keys from eligible upgradeable versions to clean install, as opposed to upgrade only.

    I believe that the hack to use GenuineTicket.xml as a means to activate a clean install appeared at around the same time, but has not been acknowledged by Microsoft as a legitimate means of manual activation, even though it utilises the technology that Windows uses for activation during setup.

    Microsoft has issued lots of little surprises with the last year of releases of Windows 10. Who's to say that there won't be more surprises in the pipeline?

    It is believed that the free upgrade year end date will be around the 29th July 2016.

    If the release of The Windows 10 Anniversary Update version (not edition - there will be several editions available), lives up to its name, you will have no time to work out if you can easily upgrade or if it will fail horribly, despite its promises, before the free upgrade period runs out.

    If you are to be an Insider, and receive pre-release versions of Windows 10, you may need to install Windows 10 well before the final Rs1 version is released to Insiders in order to register as an Insider and get it as a legitimate Insider update.

    Your choice.
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  8.    04 Apr 2016 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikerGuy View Post
    I have held off going from Win 7 to Win 10 for a number of reasons, including several hardware upgrades over the last 6 months. (I actually have one more hardware upgrade I would like to do, going to a M.2 drive once a 500 GB drive comes out, which may or may not happen soon.) Not in a hurry as Win 7 is working fine.

    So, browsing this forum occasionally, I see the Windows 10 Anniversary Update is coming out soon-ish, no firm date. Plus, the end of the "free" upgrade period is also coming up.

    Is there any advantage to waiting and seeing if the Windows 10 Anniversary Update comes out first, and performing the upgrade on that version as opposed to doing an upgrade now, and then updating with the anniversary edition? It is possible that the free upgrade period could be extended a bit as well (not starting a rumor, just thinking) that could allow this to happen.
    Go with upgrade now
    But make sure you do a backup first with
    Macrium Reflect
    Macrium Reflect Free

    Then if you don't like it you can always go back to Windows 7
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  9.    04 Apr 2016 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikerGuy View Post
    Personally, just trying to avoid problems with the updates, particularly after hearing some of the issues encountered after reading through this section occasionally. I admit I am concerned with the possibility of some of these issues happening with my upgrade. At the same time, I acknowledge that most (?) upgrades are completed trouble free.

    If the Anniversary edition promises smoother or more issue free updates, I am compelled to wait.

    In either case, am expecting considerable noob user errors after the upgrade while learning the new system.
    Win 10 is a newly designed operating system.
    If you want to try it, be prepared you might encounter problems. But you can always ask for help from this forum.
    The sooner you learn to use Win 10 and know your way around it, the better when you install the "anniversary edition".

    Counting from the 1st day you install Win 10, you have 30 days to try it out.
    You can revert back to Windows 7 WITHIN that 30 days grace period.
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  10.    04 Apr 2016 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidhk View Post
    Counting from the 1st day you install Win 10, you have 30 days to try it out.
    You can revert back to Windows 7 WITHIN that 30 days grace period.
    and you can always re-install Windows 7 from scratch after the 30 days.
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