Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7

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  1. NavyLCDR
    Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Mystere said:
    Yes, but these are not official retailers, they're selling old stock. Note your link is not actually sold by Amazon, but by a third party in the amazon marketplace.

    While i'm sure these are perfectly fine licenses, Micorosoft is no long officially selling Windows 7.
    However, your reason does not validate your statement.

    Mystere said:
    In fact, the only way to bring your license current would be to buy a Windows 10 license
    This statement is not true.

    Mystere said:
    MS is no longer selling Windows 7 licenses.
    This may be true, but they are officially supporting Windows 7 until January 2020 and there are completely legal ways to obtain a current Windows license without purchasing a Windows 10 license.
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  3. Fafhrd
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    There's a fine difference between upgradeable and qualifying (there was, back with Windows 8 too.)

    You can legitimize a windows 10 install or upgrade, with a Windows 7, 8, 8,1 (from the list below) or a purchased 10 valid key for the edition installed. Or from a digital entitlement from an activated installed 7, 8, 8.1, or 10 installation on the same machine. These have qualifying installations.

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    Microsoft has allowed upgrades to 10 from unlicensed Windows installations since the RTM came out - but the resulting windows 10 will display the watermark and nags to become activated and genuine soon after installation. They are upgradeable OSs, but not qualifying OSs.

    If you have a valid and unused (not in use elsewhere for retail) key of the type appearing in the list be it a Free or $15 Windows 8 MCE retail upgrade, or an unused OEM key from a similar model from the same OEM, it is likely to be recognised as a qualifying product key. Only non-SLP OEM keys will be accepted.

    You can still buy Windows 8.1 retail and OEM system builder products, Pro and Core, and all sorts of other editions in various geographical locations, the product keys of which since build 10565 will activate and legitimize Windows 10 if entered during setup or applied post-install. In fact they are currently, probably easier to obtain than Windows 10 packs, because of the offer of the free upgrade until July, when the full scale release of Windows 10 in the market will begin to have a greater impact on the sale and availability of earlier versions. Retailers like Tesco in the UK are pushing their stocks of Windows 8.1 home cheaply, 7 Pro at a premium price, and the Free Upgrade to 10 is one of their marketing features, but they are not actively marketing Windows 10, except on USB yetIt is just not so popular as the 8.1 version, understandably.
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  4. Mystere
    Posts : 3,257
    Windows 10 Pro
       New #13

    Fafhrd said:
    Microsoft has allowed upgrades to 10 from unlicensed Windows installations since the RTM came out - but the resulting windows 10 will display the watermark and nags to become activated and genuine soon after installation. They are upgradeable OSs, but not qualifying OSs.
    You're being overly confusing. He was talking about purchasing a retail license of Windows 10 and upgrading his non-valid Windows 7 using his Windows 10 license.

    This does not display a watermark or nag screen. You're talking about using the digital entitlement to upgrade a non-valid copy of Windows 7.

    It's perfectly fine to upgrade to a retail Windows 10 with a retail Windows 10 license from an invalid Windows 7.
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  6. NavyLCDR
    Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       New #14

    Yes, you are correct. My mistake.
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  7. OldMike65
    Posts : 134,313
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 23H2 Build 22631.3296
       New #15

    Still think your missing the BIG point in this users issue, Mystere all this user has to do is buy a Windows 7 License, enter it in his existing Windows 7 as a NEW License Key, it will be activated legally and then user can upgrade to Windows 10 if he wants too.

    This would be cheaper than buying a Windows 10 Retail key. Plus keep his files if he chooses.
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  8. cereberus
    Posts : 15,480
    Windows10
       New #16

    Mystere said:
    I am not 100% sure, but in past versions OEM licenses were forbidden to be installed on a computer that already had an OS, and they disabled the upgrade feature. You could only do a clean install. Not sure about 10 though.
    I am afraid you are giving erroneous advice and above is not true even on earlier versions. It was not possible to clean install with Windows 7 without using a COA key.

    All OP has taken do us either buy a 7 key, legitimise install, and upgrade if he wants to keep programs, or clean install 10 and use 7 key.

    A 7 oem key will work fine if he finds a legit one.

    Alternatively upgrade anyway and buy a 10 key to activate.
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