Windows 10: Buy W10 then install on non-genuine W7

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  1.    27 Mar 2016 #11

    Mystere said: View Post
    Yes, but these are not official retailers, they're selling old stock. Note your link is not actually sold by Amazon, but by a third party in the amazon marketplace.

    While i'm sure these are perfectly fine licenses, Micorosoft is no long officially selling Windows 7.
    However, your reason does not validate your statement.

    Mystere said: View Post
    In fact, the only way to bring your license current would be to buy a Windows 10 license
    This statement is not true.

    Mystere said: View Post
    MS is no longer selling Windows 7 licenses.
    This may be true, but they are officially supporting Windows 7 until January 2020 and there are completely legal ways to obtain a current Windows license without purchasing a Windows 10 license.
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       27 Mar 2016 #12

    There's a fine difference between upgradeable and qualifying (there was, back with Windows 8 too.)

    You can legitimize a windows 10 install or upgrade, with a Windows 7, 8, 8,1 (from the list below) or a purchased 10 valid key for the edition installed. Or from a digital entitlement from an activated installed 7, 8, 8.1, or 10 installation on the same machine. These have qualifying installations.

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    Microsoft has allowed upgrades to 10 from unlicensed Windows installations since the RTM came out - but the resulting windows 10 will display the watermark and nags to become activated and genuine soon after installation. They are upgradeable OSs, but not qualifying OSs.

    If you have a valid and unused (not in use elsewhere for retail) key of the type appearing in the list be it a Free or $15 Windows 8 MCE retail upgrade, or an unused OEM key from a similar model from the same OEM, it is likely to be recognised as a qualifying product key. Only non-SLP OEM keys will be accepted.

    You can still buy Windows 8.1 retail and OEM system builder products, Pro and Core, and all sorts of other editions in various geographical locations, the product keys of which since build 10565 will activate and legitimize Windows 10 if entered during setup or applied post-install. In fact they are currently, probably easier to obtain than Windows 10 packs, because of the offer of the free upgrade until July, when the full scale release of Windows 10 in the market will begin to have a greater impact on the sale and availability of earlier versions. Retailers like Tesco in the UK are pushing their stocks of Windows 8.1 home cheaply, 7 Pro at a premium price, and the Free Upgrade to 10 is one of their marketing features, but they are not actively marketing Windows 10, except on USB yetIt is just not so popular as the 8.1 version, understandably.
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  3.    27 Mar 2016 #13

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    Microsoft has allowed upgrades to 10 from unlicensed Windows installations since the RTM came out - but the resulting windows 10 will display the watermark and nags to become activated and genuine soon after installation. They are upgradeable OSs, but not qualifying OSs.
    You're being overly confusing. He was talking about purchasing a retail license of Windows 10 and upgrading his non-valid Windows 7 using his Windows 10 license.

    This does not display a watermark or nag screen. You're talking about using the digital entitlement to upgrade a non-valid copy of Windows 7.

    It's perfectly fine to upgrade to a retail Windows 10 with a retail Windows 10 license from an invalid Windows 7.
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  4.    27 Mar 2016 #14

    Yes, you are correct. My mistake.
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    Windows10Pro 64Bit - Build 14393.1198
       27 Mar 2016 #15

    Still think your missing the BIG point in this users issue, Mystere all this user has to do is buy a Windows 7 License, enter it in his existing Windows 7 as a NEW License Key, it will be activated legally and then user can upgrade to Windows 10 if he wants too.

    This would be cheaper than buying a Windows 10 Retail key. Plus keep his files if he chooses.
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  6.    28 Mar 2016 #16

    Mystere said: View Post
    I am not 100% sure, but in past versions OEM licenses were forbidden to be installed on a computer that already had an OS, and they disabled the upgrade feature. You could only do a clean install. Not sure about 10 though.
    I am afraid you are giving erroneous advice and above is not true even on earlier versions. It was not possible to clean install with Windows 7 without using a COA key.

    All OP has taken do us either buy a 7 key, legitimise install, and upgrade if he wants to keep programs, or clean install 10 and use 7 key.

    A 7 oem key will work fine if he finds a legit one.

    Alternatively upgrade anyway and buy a 10 key to activate.
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