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  1.    08 Mar 2016 #1
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    back to seven


    Sons computer, dell desktop, has been left really unstable because of windows 10 updates
    It has been over 30 days
    Is there any way to put it back to seven other than taking to a shop
    his laptop also objected to windows 10, it is also a dell, that went into a reboot loop and is totally useless
    does dell and windows 10 have issues with each other
    he will have to take the laptop to the shop I think but the desktop is still working, (not well), can it be restored to
    seven, also restore files to seven are gone
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  2.    08 Mar 2016 #2
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    If the OEM stuff as well as the Windows.old folder are gone on the desktop slim chance of that happening! All original files and folders have to remain intact in order to be able to revert back to 7 or the previous version(7, 8, 8.1) from 10. And the reason the upgrades are buggy has to do with upgrade type installs often turning out buggy regardless of which version is being upgraded into!

    For an effective working 10 install you wouldn't even need an upgrade but can see a clean install take place. Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First - Windows 10 Forums

    This had been a topic on the burner when 10 was first launched and too many were running into problematic upgrades! I know only too well from first hand 10mares as far as upgrades go while at the same time have a working 10/7 dual boot on two separate desktops! Too bad you didn't have a system image backup made for both the laptop and desktop there you could simply see restored. If the DiskCleanup tool ran during the time of the upgrades and now however the Windows.old and some other necessary files would have been cleaned off of the C drive on each! Someone did make an image and saw a fortunate end result when going to restore a full system image backup. Solved Revert back to Win 7 - Windows 10 Forums
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  3.    08 Mar 2016 #3
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 8.1, Win10Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Wood View Post
    Sons computer, dell desktop, has been left really unstable because of windows 10 updates
    It has been over 30 days
    Is there any way to put it back to seven other than taking to a shop
    What might work, if Dell has it, is using their Restore Media to reset it to it's original condition. HP sells such stuff for around $40 USD -- which is a lot cheaper than the $100 (or so) that you'd spend purchasing Win7, and I would imaging a shop might charge even more than that!
    his laptop also objected to windows 10, it is also a dell, that went into a reboot loop and is totally useless
    does dell and windows 10 have issues with each other
    I've run into similar problems with HP laptops running Win7 and the problem stems from a combination of the specialized hardware that OEMs put into laptops and the Win10 Upgrader tool's inability to spot that hardware in advance, thus preventing the upgrade.

    Oddly enough, I had an old HP Win7 laptop that crashed on two attempts to do Win10 Upgrades, but when I did a clean-install, it went off without hardly any problems at all. I had to get one odd driver from the HP forums, but apart from that, ALL the hardware is working without any problems.

    So, you might try a clean-install from Win10 media to see if that makes any difference -- it might!

    Good Luck
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  4.    08 Mar 2016 #4
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    Windows 7

    Check whether there is a recovery partition. That would hold the original OS with which the PC came. You could reinstall from there.
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  5.    08 Mar 2016 #5
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    At this time if you can find 7 media online you won't be spending $100 or more! Back in 2013 I caught a 64bit Pro OEM dvd for $70- which is now found for $49.95 while the Home Premium edition gets $39.95 at one software outlet. Search Results

    The support site would be the place to look for the recovery media creation tool. That would put everything back to factory fresh status however which would mean the total loss of everything on the drive! The recovery media will reformat everything to see the fresh copy of 7 go on with all the factory bloat wares many often complain about. Without being able to revert back to 7 directly with an OS roll back the only other option would be seeing the C primary wiped since 10 is the newer version.

    Your first move however should be backing everything up from the drives on both that you need to keep and then nuke'em both for seeing 7 back on again. One thing to know however is that 10 doesn't go on completely without some help being seen as far as choosing the instant or delayed upgrade when the 10 app is present! There are a few options for not seeing this happen again you should look over in the guide section here at 10 F! Upgrade to Windows 10 Update - Enable or Disable in Windows 7 or 8.1 - Windows 10 Forums
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  6.    08 Mar 2016 #6
    Join Date : Apr 2014
    Space coast of Florida
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 16299.19

    You can download the Windows 7 ISOs:

    See here: Download Windows 7 ISOs, Legally and for Free

    Also available here: Microsoft DigitalRiver Mirror (Technet)
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  7.    08 Mar 2016 #7
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    You can download the Windows 7 ISOs:

    See here: Download Windows 7 ISOs, Legally and for Free

    Also available here: Microsoft DigitalRiver Mirror (Technet)
    ^^^^That's what I would suggest as well. Assuming both computers have COA stickers with Windows 7 product keys on them, or you know the product keys for the Windows 7 they came with.
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  8.    08 Mar 2016 #8
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    If you have a pre SP1 key it won't work with an SP1 included iso! You have to match the correct key to the download! And Digital Rivers was shut down from Windows iso downloads last year! You will want to see the reply on MS MVP came out with in that regard. Cannot find Digital River download site - Microsoft Community
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  9.    09 Mar 2016 #9
    Join Date : Apr 2014
    Space coast of Florida
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 16299.19

    Both of the links I posted provided good, legal (so far) ISO for Windows 7. Neither are Digital River thoug one advertises itself as a Digital River Mirror.
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  10.    09 Mar 2016 #10
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    There's some kind of new MS marketing venture being run on the DR site to replace the DR online store. MS decided to start up a separate MS Store as well as open retail locations in various cities. Ecommerce Solutions | Payment Gateways | Digital Marketing

    The second link you posted has the Hash Key verification tool which is always good to have to match up things up with! The product key for 7 however will need to have been for 7 with SP1 originally and not simply the first from the 2009 launch like the one I have here for the Fall 2009 retail purchase. If both the laptop and desktop saw SP1 then the only problem would be the OEM key not working on the download for some reason where a call to MS would then be needed.
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