Windows 10: Help! Windows 10 installation problems Solved

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  1.    08 Mar 2016 #1

    Help! Windows 10 installation problems


    I am officially infuriated. This the second attempt at installing windows 10 and my third clean install on said attempt. Each time it boots for the first time just fine, and it's normally at this point where I update drivers. The first install I update nvidia driver. Second time did the same, but altered windows settings. Third and most recent time i've used windows default gpu driver, disabled fast boot (some have said it can cause issues) and updated the audio driver (realtek).
    My pc is as follows:
    ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
    AMD FX 6300 CPU
    Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
    Zotac GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB GPU
    (and for what it's worth) Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer

    The most common issue is that it's a black screen with a mouse. Sometimes it flat out crashes on welcome/login screen.


    Through the automatic startup repair (turning off the pc mid-boot) I was able to boot into safe mode. Restarting in safe mode yielded an actual boot. How or why I don't know.
    I turning it off and back on resulted in the messed up boot.

    One last note: when I boot, there are two sets of the windows logo with the spinning circles. Both in fast boot and non-fast boot. The second set of circles seems to indicate a proper boot. If the boot is fine, the circles are slightly slower than the first set. If the boot is screwy, the circles are EXTREMELY slow. This was also the case in my first attempt in installing windows 10 a few months back,


    If any more details are needed please ask. I just want this issue resolved.
    Thanks.
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  2. Arc's Avatar
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       08 Mar 2016 #2

    Some points from your post .....
    Cpaz said: View Post
    The first install I update nvidia driver. Second time did the same, but altered windows settings. Third and most recent time i've used windows default gpu driver, disabled fast boot (some have said it can cause issues) and updated the audio driver (realtek).
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    My pc is as follows:
    Zotac GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB GPU
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    I was able to boot into safe mode. Restarting in safe mode yielded an actual boot.
    It seems to be a display/graphics related issue.

    The main difference between Safe Mode and Normal Mode is that Safe Mode does not use the display driver. And Safe Mode is accessible.
    Every time the issue occurs with the installation of the driver to the graphics card.

    Try a few alternative versions of the display driver. Say ....

    • GeForce 362.00 WHQL
    • GeForce 361.91 WHQL
    • GeForce 361.75 WHQL

    All you get from here: Drivers | GeForce

    Uninstall the installed one using Display Driver Uninstaller. Install one of the list. Does it behave the same? If so, try the next one, and so on.

    Is it behaving the same for all the three? (Testing with three versions will be enough).

    As your motherboard ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 has no graphics on it, you need to try another graphics card. Borrow one from friends or family. Apply it, with appropriate driver. See how it goes, let us know.
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  3.    08 Mar 2016 #3

    Thanks for replying! As soon as I get back to my desktop i'll try the different gpu drivers. Unfortunately, I've no spare motherboard. The only oter motherboard uses and intel cpu, so no compatability.
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  4.    08 Mar 2016 #4

    THANK YOU! It seems uninstalling and updating the driver to 361.75 fixed it. I'm going to update over the weekend. I'm cautiously optimistic, but optimistic non the less.
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  5. Arc's Avatar
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       09 Mar 2016 #5

    It seems good.
    Observe the situation for a few more days. If it causes any further trouble, let us know.
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  6.    10 Mar 2016 #6

    OK, quick question, does windows 10 have the ability to update nvidia drivers? Because 1: this morning I had the same issue again, (ran safe mode, and am going to try 362.00) and 2: the driver number was not the traditional nvidia format (3XX.XX)
    If windows does not update video drivers automatically, what happened?

    EDIT:
    362.00 worked. Now just more waiting, and searching for windows driver updates (if there are any...)
    Last edited by Cpaz; 10 Mar 2016 at 16:15.
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  7. Arc's Avatar
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       10 Mar 2016 #7

    Cpaz said: View Post
    OK, quick question, does windows 10 have the ability to update nvidia drivers?
    Yes, it has the ability to install the third party drivers as windows updates. I get the drivers this way, bet this time I tried to resist.
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    If you want to stop it, click on Cortana/Search. Type "Control Panel".
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    Open Control Panel. Set it View by Large Icons. Open System.
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    Windows update works good, but I also feel that the current nvidia driver it is offering is not very good. As you are having BSODs, you stop it and use the driver that works fine for you.

    If later it provides a stable driver I will inform you.
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  8.    12 Mar 2016 #8

    Alright, so far only 361.75 has lasted me more than a single day. 361.91 and 362.00 have both gone screwy after a day.
    (I turn the pc off before bed, and turn it on in the morning, nothing complicated)
    I suspect why 361.75 went weird the first time was because of windows updating it. Though I'm not certain because of how similar the screw ups between all the drivers have been.
    Any other assistance of suggestions would be appreciated.
    Thanks again for all the help so far! It's definitely the farthest I've gotten...

    Also yes I turned off the windows driver update thing.
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  9. Arc's Avatar
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       12 Mar 2016 #9

    Nvidia display driver update via windows update had caused some problems to me too, two/three days ago, and twice.
    I am also using the 361.xx WHQL right now.
    So my experience matches with that of you.

    No more troubleshooting is needed there till the computer is running stable. But if it starts causing problems again, let us know.
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  10.    15 Mar 2016 #10

    Potentially related: windows 10 has been having startup issues for the past few days. Usually ending with me going into startup repair. It scans the hard drive and it "attempts repairs" it starts up after that. The odd thing is, for some programs have to reinstall files. Visual studio and Game maker studio to name a few. Other programs have their configurations removed altogether or at least modified.
    All I know for sure is that startup repair seems to only be a temporary fix until the next boot.
    Any help on this would be appreciated as well.
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