Windows 10: Windows 10 on OLD COMPUTERS

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  1.    06 Mar 2016 #31

    My current score of Win 10 upgrade successes (all Dells, all Win 10 1511 build) -
    Win 10 64 bit OS - Optiplex 980, 2 Optiplex 745's, Optiplex 760, Latitude D820
    Win 10 32 bit OS - Latitude D531

    Win 7 64 bit - Dimension XPS Gen 5 - lone failure to upgrade.

    All the 64 bit upgrades were just a matter of churning thru the upgrade process with BIOS upgrades, driver updates, etc. The 32 bit upgrade went well as soon as I switched over after trying the 64 bit upgrade several times. Of all these systems, I lost no user data or files from an error during the upgrades. At this point, I got to hand it to MS, they really improved the process.
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  2.    06 Mar 2016 #32

    amtronic said: View Post
    My current score of Win 10 upgrade successes (all Dells, all Win 10 1511 build) -
    Win 10 64 bit OS - Optiplex 980, 2 Optiplex 745's, Optiplex 760, Latitude D820
    Win 10 32 bit OS - Latitude D531

    Win 7 64 bit - Dimension XPS Gen 5 - lone failure to upgrade.

    All the 64 bit upgrades were just a matter of churning thru the upgrade process with BIOS upgrades, driver updates, etc. The 32 bit upgrade went well as soon as I switched over after trying the 64 bit upgrade several times. Of all these systems, I lost no user data or files from an error during the upgrades. At this point, I got to hand it to MS, they really improved the process.
    What processor on the latitude D820 if you don't mind my asking. I'd like to go 64 bit but fear my T2300 won't support it.
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    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       06 Mar 2016 #33

    CTPhil said: View Post
    What processor on the latitude D820 if you don't mind my asking. I'd like to go 64 bit but fear my T2300 won't support it.
    My T2390 will run X64 https://www.tenforums.com/installatio...tml#post587721
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  4.    06 Mar 2016 #34

    Hmmm...I guess there's no harm in giving it a try, thanks!
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  5. Posts : 8,212
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       06 Mar 2016 #35

    Good luck.
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  6.    06 Mar 2016 #36

    Thank you! Got to install 7 first, lol.
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    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       06 Mar 2016 #37
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  8.    06 Mar 2016 #38

    Unfortunately no, because I'm starting off with XP. The D820 refused both my 7 USB drive, and also my 7 all-in-one DVD. The error with the USB drive actually said the problem was that the hardware was unsuitable for 64 bit. Oh well. To make things worse, when I popped my XP SSD back in the 820, it is not recognized, "no drive present". Must be a connection thing because I put it in an unused D630 and it booted right off, I'm using it now, lol. The 630 has a T7500, maybe I'll just put 64 bit 10 on it for fun, and pick up a used E6500 or E6510 for my primary laptop to replace the 820. Nothing wrong with the 820 and I like it, but I guess I'm finally ready to make the leap to 10 on my every day machine.
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  9. Posts : 3,234
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint
       06 Mar 2016 #39

    CTPhil said: View Post
    Unfortunately no, because I'm starting off with XP. The D820 refused both my 7 USB drive, and also my 7 all-in-one DVD. The error with the USB drive actually said the problem was that the hardware was unsuitable for 64 bit. Oh well. To make things worse, when I popped my XP SSD back in the 820, it is not recognized, "no drive present". Must be a connection thing because I put it in an unused D630 and it booted right off, I'm using it now, lol. The 630 has a T7500, maybe I'll just put 64 bit 10 on it for fun, and pick up a used E6500 or E6510 for my primary laptop to replace the 820. Nothing wrong with the 820 and I like it, but I guess I'm finally ready to make the leap to 10 on my every day machine.
    I have a Latitude D810 running Win7 Pro and it can't be Upgraded to Win10 because of the X600 video adapter. It's a 32-bit CPU and Max RAM of 2GB. I'll keep it because a lot of the newest Notebooks are now leaving off the VGA projector/monitor port, are going with HDMI, and I have occasion now and then to verify a monitor performance in a client's environment.

    I check whether a computer can run 64-bit OS by downloading a Linux LiveDVD .iso which lets me create a bootable disc then I boot to it, if the hardware is only 32-bit it will fail to boot.
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       07 Mar 2016 #40

    It's much easier and quicker to download a tiny utility like coreinfo to check if a processor is capable of running 64-bit windows. Other utilities like CPU-Z will give some of this information and many other useful features.

    Run from the commandline, Coreinfo produces output in the form shown in the code box below. You can send the output to a text file on your desktop with the command coreinfo >%USERPROFILE%\desktop\coreinfo.txt and open it with notepad.

    An entry marked with a * shows that the instruction is present and - if the instruction is absent. I have coloured red the essential features for Windows 10 on 32 bit systems, and blue for 64-bit ones.

    Code:
    AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphicsx86 Family 20 Model 2 Stepping 0, AuthenticAMD
    Microcode signature: 05000119
    HTT           *    Multicore
    HYPERVISOR    -    Hypervisor is present
    VMX           -    Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
    SVM           *    Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
    X64           *    Supports 64-bit mode
    
    
    SMX           -    Supports Intel trusted execution
    SKINIT        *    Supports AMD SKINIT
    
    
    NX            *    Supports no-execute page protection
    SMEP          -    Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Prevention
    SMAP          -    Supports Supervisor Mode Access Prevention
    PAGE1GB       *    Supports 1 GB large pages
    PAE           *    Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
    PAT           *    Supports Page Attribute Table
    PSE           *    Supports 4 MB pages
    PSE36         *    Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages
    PGE           *    Supports global bit in page tables
    SS            -    Supports bus snooping for cache operations
    VME           *    Supports Virtual-8086 mode
    RDWRFSGSBASE    -    Supports direct GS/FS base access
    
    
    FPU           *    Implements i387 floating point instructions
    MMX           *    Supports MMX instruction set
    MMXEXT        *    Implements AMD MMX extensions
    3DNOW         -    Supports 3DNow! instructions
    3DNOWEXT      -    Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
    SSE           *    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
    SSE2          *    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
    SSE3          *    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    SSSE3         *    Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
    SSE4a         *    Supports Streaming SIMDR Extensions 4a
    SSE4.1        -    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
    SSE4.2        -    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2
    
    
    AES           -    Supports AES extensions
    AVX           -    Supports AVX intruction extensions
    FMA           -    Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
    MSR           *    Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
    MTRR          *    Supports Memory Type Range Registers
    XSAVE         -    Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
    OSXSAVE       -    Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions
    RDRAND        -    Supports RDRAND instruction
    RDSEED        -    Supports RDSEED instruction
    
    
    CMOV          *    Supports CMOVcc instruction
    CLFSH         *    Supports CLFLUSH instruction
    CX8           *    Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
    CX16          *    Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
    BMI1          -    Supports bit manipulation extensions 1
    BMI2          -    Supports bit manipulation extensions 2
    ADX           -    Supports ADCX/ADOX instructions
    DCA           -    Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
    F16C          -    Supports half-precision instruction
    FXSR          *    Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
    FFXSR         *    Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
    MONITOR       *    Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
    MOVBE         -    Supports MOVBE instruction
    ERMSB         -    Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB
    PCLMULDQ      -    Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
    POPCNT        *    Supports POPCNT instruction
    LZCNT         *    Supports LZCNT instruction
    SEP           *    Supports fast system call instructions
    LAHF-SAHF     *    Supports LAHF/SAHF instructions in 64-bit mode
    HLE           -    Supports Hardware Lock Elision instructions
    RTM           -    Supports Restricted Transactional Memory instructions
    
    
    DE            *    Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
    DTES64        -    Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
    DS            -    Implements memory-resident debug buffer
    DS-CPL        -    Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
    PCID          -    Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
    INVPCID       -    Supports INVPCID instruction
    PDCM          -    Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
    RDTSCP        *    Supports RDTSCP instruction
    TSC           *    Supports RDTSC instruction
    TSC-DEADLINE    -    Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
    TSC-INVARIANT    *    TSC runs at constant rate
    xTPR          -    Supports disabling task priority messages
    
    
    EIST          -    Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep
    ACPI          -    Implements MSR for power management
    TM            -    Implements thermal monitor circuitry
    TM2           -    Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
    APIC          *    Implements software-accessible local APIC
    x2APIC        -    Supports x2APIC
    
    
    CNXT-ID       -    L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS
    
    
    MCE           *    Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
    MCA           *    Implements Machine Check Architecture
    PBE           -    Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin
    
    
    PSN           -    Implements 96-bit processor serial number
    
    
    PREFETCHW     *    Supports PREFETCHW instruction
    
    
    Maximum implemented CPUID leaves: 00000006 (Basic), 8000001B (Extended).
    
    
    Logical to Physical Processor Map:
    *-  Physical Processor 0
    -*  Physical Processor 1
    
    
    Logical Processor to Socket Map:
    **  Socket 0
    
    
    Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
    **  NUMA Node 0
    
    
    No NUMA nodes.
    
    
    Logical Processor to Cache Map:
    *-  Data Cache          0, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
    *-  Instruction Cache   0, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   2, LineSize  64
    *-  Unified Cache       0, Level 2,  512 KB, Assoc  16, LineSize  64
    -*  Data Cache          1, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
    -*  Instruction Cache   1, Level 1,   32 KB, Assoc   2, LineSize  64
    -*  Unified Cache       1, Level 2,  512 KB, Assoc  16, LineSize  64
    
    
    Logical Processor to Group Map:
    **  Group 0
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