Is unformated primary partition necessary

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  1. whs
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    Windows 7
       #11

    It is one of those games they can now play = now that they have GPT and no restrictions on the number of partitions. GPT is the anti baby pill of disk management and allows all kinds of uncontrolled activities.
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  2. Posts : 16
    Win 10 Home
       #12

    Not sure I'd risk removing it, considering how little you'll gain.
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  3. Posts : 1,375
    W10 21H2 19044.1387
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Although for me, I don't like to experiment that much on HDD/SDD's I just might do so. With Macrium, will try a "test" image and uncheck that partition, load it on a spare drive and see what happens. In the mean time, will let things as they are!

    Tx for all the comments!
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  4. Posts : 17,246
    Windows 11 Pro
       #14

    meebers said:
    MBR, have never been asked to choose GPT or MBR on a new disk. Have always let windows install choose type. GPT is blank
    Use MiniTool Partition Wizard to delete whatever is there and extend C: drive into it, if you want to.
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  5. Posts : 1,375
    W10 21H2 19044.1387
    Thread Starter
       #15

    NavyLCDR said:
    Use MiniTool Partition Wizard to delete whatever is there and extend C: drive into it, if you want to.
    I just did a D/L of ver 9.1, looked at several drives, on MiniTool, it shows them as GPT Primary and not as MBR as shown above ? Time for a brewski?
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  6. Posts : 17,246
    Windows 11 Pro
       #16

    meebers said:
    I just did a D/L of ver 9.1, looked at several drives, on MiniTool, it shows them as GPT Primary and not as MBR as shown above ? Time for a brewski?
    This is my Windows 10 Tablet. I have no issues with mine:

    Is unformated primary partition necessary-capture.jpg

    and that's why I say just delete it and expand C: drive into the free space.
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  7. Posts : 2,790
    Linux Mint 20.1 Win10Prox64
       #17

    lx07 said:
    I'd leave it. MS say it is required (although they are a bit vague what it is required for) so even if they don't use it now they might in future.

    You could delete it, move C to the left and then extend C. If it turns out its presence is required for some future upgrade though you'd have to shrink C and shuffle it to the right and then recreate it... Seems a lot of effort for such a tiny gain.

    Its only 128MB (strangely they seem to have reduced the size lately - mine is only 16MB).
    After all. Intel developed GPT and became part of UEFI. Microsoft implement it and they both say it must exist in GPT type disk. So who would you beleive ? Mini Tool developer/Mini Tool Fan boy ?
    In Windows 8, the MSR is 128MB. Starting with Windows 10 RTM fresh install, was reduced to 16MB. If any body running Windows 10 upgraded from 8, then the MSR is still 128MB. However, On any basic data disk (Non Windows), a 128MB MSR partition is always created in the 1st partition of a GPT disk.
    Last edited by topgundcp; 03 Feb 2016 at 19:20.
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  8. whs
    Posts : 1,935
    Windows 7
       #18

    After all we are talking about nothing. Those partitions are so small that they cannot be a problem on anybody's disk. We just have to get used to them in the pictures.
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  9. Posts : 17,246
    Windows 11 Pro
       #19

    Or not. As you can tell, it really bugs topgundcp and a few others when people delete that little unformatted partition chunk of space. I don't know what bothers them more, the fact that Microsoft says not to do it and we do it anyway, or that nothing bad has happened to any system that it has been deleted from. I imagine if enough people delete the MSR partition, though, it might throw the world into chaos and be the start of the apocalypse like the Y2K bug was supposed to do. ;-)
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  10. Posts : 2,790
    Linux Mint 20.1 Win10Prox64
       #20

    NavyLCDR said:
    Or not. As you can tell, it really bugs topgundcp and a few others when people delete that little unformatted partition chunk of space. I don't know what bothers them more, the fact that Microsoft says not to do it and we do it anyway, or that nothing bad has happened to any system that it has been deleted from.
    @NavyLCDR
    Seriously you need to realize that you are no smarter than the one who developed it.
    Here's an example: Recently you keep advising people to mark a GPT partition "Active". How do you do that with GPT disk ? Is that because Mini Tool status says it is Active. Obviously you don't know enough on how UEFI works.
    Do I need 3 recovery partitions. - Windows 10 Forums
    It does not bother me one bit and I did ignore replying your post in the other thread. It is not right to tell people to do things that are not standard, It is there for a reason, period.
    Sorry to be blunt but I have to say what need to be said.
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