Windows 10: Need to revert from Build 1511 (10586.36) to 10240 Solved

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       12 Jan 2016 #21

    That one there will be a bit more involved then what you were asking about but will make a good reference. You may end sometime wanting to help someone upgrade as well if not simply see a clean install for others where having a combination stick can be a life saver! The Recovery Drive on a key chain idea still holds merit as well as since that's a low cost live repair option.
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       12 Jan 2016 #22

    Night Hawk, where in the BIOS do I check to see if it's set up as Fast or Secure boot? I see in the manual it's disabled by default, but I want to make sure.

    I found this after I posted. I guess I don't need to go into the BIOS.

    The computer updated today to 1151 (10586.63). Do I need to run the tool again and create a new USB bootable drive? I didn't have a chance to do the clean install before the update today.
    Last edited by Alicia J; 12 Jan 2016 at 19:06.
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       13 Jan 2016 #23

    I would advise seeing the 10 media made up anyways even if the install proves to work out well for you. You never know when you may have to either boot live to perform a repair or even use the reset option or see another fresh install go on. Even when having the 10 media up the Recovery Drive option is still good to have as well in case you are running 10 on a laptop and out somewhere. I still have to see if the Toshiba replacement laptop here will boot from usb or it is stuck on optical like the 3yr. old HP that just stuffed on me last week?!

    Here not only do I have the 10586 iso on the 128gb one of two actually flash drive I carry on me with a Linux partition for live data recovery but have both the 10240 Home and Pro x64 isos and the dual Home/Pro 64bit iso for the TH2. Those are for potential upgrades or repairs while the second mini tower and VMs here are still Insider Preview builds one upgraded over the other. The TH2 on the main build was actually an upgrade over the previous 10576 Insider build to 10586 Insider to TH2 in that order.
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       13 Jan 2016 #24

    Okay, thanks. I'll create another media with the updated build on it. That way I have two if for some reason one fails.
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       13 Jan 2016 #25

    It won't hurt any! It can help having a pair of flash drives made up just in case of a bad write regardless of whether or not the MC Tool is used, Rufus referred to in the guide, or another program. I've had a few occasions when I simply had to reformat and see a repeat try in order to get the program to write an iso or two fully.

    As for the Recovery Drive option Windows makes that up when prompted to plug in a flash drive when going to use that option found in the Control Panel under Backup & Restore. That writes quick since you are only seeing the options you would find in the F8 menu only available for use when for some reason you are not able to call that up at post time.

    You should be good to go however since the MC Tool usually writes a good stick right on the spot without problems.
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       16 Jan 2016 #26

    I just wanted to tell you Night Hawk that I successfully did a clean install of Windows 10! I'm now in the process of reinstalling all my software. Whew.
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       16 Jan 2016 #27

    Sound good to me! Congradulations are in order for you on your first OS install!

    You will likely do alright for the first time around anyways. But it would be interesting to hear back on how the rest of the software installs go for you there. Once you have tended to this a few times it will start to become second nature to an extent.

    It won't always be the exact all the time however. This is one thing I should give you a forewarning about since there will be times when something simply won't go on fully or won't go on at all in some cases especially when first getting started off with a new version like the wait now to see what comes next. But we all take baby steps when first starting out anyways!
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       17 Jan 2016 #28

    Well I got all my software installed except Outlook. That's tomorrow's project. Other than some issues finding the software I need for my camera on their website(I have to call them on Monday) everything went well. Hopefully I don't run into issues with the Outlook install.
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       17 Jan 2016 #29

    I went with the Windows Essentials 2012 here which more or less was the replacement for WLMail not Messenger however since Skype actually a much better service is what MS starting bringing in to replace Windows Live Mail. That still allows you to keep the accounts simply being the upgraded form. 10 however has it's own Mail app while that wasn't something that impressed me much there and why I simply went for the older W8 form of mail. Here's an outside non MS reference from the Everything 10 site about that. Note this was originally for Windows 8 at the time while still kept for 10 since 8 saw these newer apps take the place of the WLM functions.

    Windows Essentials For The Desktop

    The Windows Essentials installer package is still available for Windows 8. It will download and install the familiar Windows Essentials desktop applications on your computer, although many applications – such as the Bing Bar, Outlook Connector, Messenger Companion, Windows Live Mesh (replaced by SkyDrive), and Family Safety (Windows 8 has integrated parental controls) have been removed.
    Microsoft is de-emphasizing these applications, although several have no Modern equivalent yet. You may want to install:

    • SkyDrive (desktop): Windows 8 only comes with a Modern-style SkyDrive app that allows you to view your SkyDrive and upload files in the new, Modern UI. If you use SkyDrive and want to sync files to your computer and access them in a folder – just like Dropbox – you’ll need the SkyDrive desktop application. It’s available through the Windows Essentials installer, although you can also download the SkyDrive desktop app separately.
    • Windows Movie Maker: Microsoft’s easy-to-use movie editing application still has no Modern equivalent. The desktop application works fine on Windows 8 and is available from here, along with a photo gallery application that works on the desktop.
    • Windows Live Writer: Windows Live Writer is a much-loved blogging application. It still has no equivalent in the new Windows 8 interface. If you want Windows Live Writer, you’ll need to install it from here.

    You probably don’t want to install:

    • Windows Live Mail: Don’t expect Microsoft to focus much attention on this program going forward – Microsoft would rather you use the Mail application in the Modern interface, the full Microsoft Outlook on the desktop, or their web interface. If you still like Windows Live Mail, you can install it and continue to use it anyway.
    • Windows Live Messenger: There’s not much point in installing Messenger – Microsoft’s Messenger service will be shut down on March 15, 2013, after which this program will no longer be available. Existing accounts will be migrated to Skype, so you’ll want to install the Skype desktop app if you’d rather not use the Modern app.

    The rest of that is seen at Everything Windows 10: Windows Live Essentials For Windows 8

    Personally while still having it on I never use it! I simply keep a bookmark on the bookmarks bar in each browser to go direct to the Live account's inbox as well as a second for adding to the Block Senders list typically spam until lately the MS Spam Fighters option I went with automatically flags stuff I get in from vendors as well as junk! You simply click the not junk or junk button on that and a new window opens you have to close out and then find the filter nuked the junk or moved the mail into the inbox. The Live Mail option in the Windows Essentials 2012 while specified for 7 only seems to work as normal as ever on 10 however! Windows Essentials - Microsoft Windows
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       17 Jan 2016 #30

    I actually have a copy of Micrrosoft office home edition 2010. What a pain installing all the updates! I'm still at it.
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