Windows 10: Upgrade to Win 10 v10586 from 10240 on GRUB-based system fails

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  1.    08 Jan 2016 #11

    cereberus said: View Post
    You are confusing a clean install with an ugrade not keeping files.

    A clean install wipes all traces of previous OS and you have tou boot from a bootable usb stick or dvd OUTSIDE of windows i.e. same way as if the hard drive was blank.
    Perhaps I am confused. My installation was setup with the parameters to not save anything from the previous install - no settings, applications, user profiles. That is clean enough.

    Using the DVD tool by booting directly into it will not allow a clean install. It refused to install on any drive.
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  2.    08 Jan 2016 #12

    bro67 said: View Post
    It is because Windows wants to always use its own boot loader. There are better ones out there.

    You can also use a Pen Drive with the latest. UEFI is still a work in progress with Linux.
    Hi there

    UEFI works 100% perfectly on most decent Linux distros --no probs myself in using it on CENTOS 7.

    As far as the boot loader is concerned I would tend to have Linux on a separate (even external) HDD / SSD - you can set the boot loader / grub2 so it boots totally from its own HDD -- whether internal or external.

    Doing it that way you can keep Windows native boot mechanisms.

    To reset the HDD for windows --if it's non UEFI a FIXMBR command will do -- otherwise for GPT you need to use Windows recovery disk to fix the boot.

    Linux works surprisingly well but I'd keep the two OS'es on separate HDD's rather than partitions of the same drive.

    Most Linux Distros run quite snappily even from a USB2 external HDD -- a really cheap way is to get a cheap 320GB 2,5 inch laptop HDD and connect to the computer via an USB-->SATA connector. A USB3 drive connected to a USB3 port will yield even better results and an SSD whether connected via USB2 or USB3 will yield a performance as good as Native windows running from an internal HDD / SSD.

    Use the computers Boot menu (Bios / boot menu) to choose your boot system. A Linux UEFI system can run 100% from an external HDD. The latest Linux kernels have just as good plug 'n play as Windows and Networking is far simpler (and works !!).

    An external Linux HDD is usually quite portable too --you can run it from a variety of different machines.

    I have a Windows VM on one of these Linux systems --makes a great recovery disk too - as well as being able to run different versions of Ms Office etc in different languages depending on what client's site I'm working.

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       08 Jan 2016 #13

    cereberus said: View Post
    You did not need to do that - you could have just installed 10586 and use 8 key.
    You do not have to enter a key, as long as that machine stays in your Live profile.

    You just tell it to skip the activation. When it gets done installing, it will activate.
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  4.    25 Jan 2016 #14

    I now found out that my original problem was caused by booting the update in BIOS mode (not UEFI mode).
    The installer will not mix legacy bios boot and uefi boot installs.
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       25 Jan 2016 #15

    That is correct.
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