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  1.    03 Jan 2016 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    What about creating a MiniTool Partition Wizard (free) USB/CD, booting from that, wipe the SSD by writing zeroes to the drive, create and format a NTFS partition on the entire drive minus 1GB, then attempting to install Windows to the partition already formatted by MiniTool?
    I will give it a shot, thank you. Although as I mentioned I did install Windows 10 on this SSD, through a second laptop without issue but when I put the SSD in the original laptop it would not boot successfully..

    By the way, the bios on this thing is pretty limited and I don't have a legacy/uefi boot option.
    Last edited by craig91; 03 Jan 2016 at 02:10.
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  2.    03 Jan 2016 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    What about creating a MiniTool Partition Wizard (free) USB/CD, booting from that, wipe the SSD by writing zeroes to the drive, create and format a NTFS partition on the entire drive minus 1GB, then attempting to install Windows to the partition already formatted by MiniTool?
    No dice Wiped to zeroes, created NTFS primary partition minus 1 GB, and then wouldn't let me proceed to install on that partition with the error "We couldn't create a new partition or locate an existing one. For more information, see the Setup log files".

    Error after trying to install on NTFS partition formatted in mini partition wizard.
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    Crucial MX200 250 GB SSD (cannot yet install windows on)
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    Stock Samsung 500 GB HDD with Windows 7 (still working/booting fine)
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    I tried going into the repair my computer at the start of the install wizard, ran a 'clean' from diskpart and install again on the unallocated block, still gives error. I am stumped.
    Last edited by craig91; 03 Jan 2016 at 03:34.
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  3.    03 Jan 2016 #13
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    This might be a workaround to get W10 to boot, you've mentioned W10 installs on the new SSD on another computer, but won't boot on the original laptop. Have you considered doing that to get W10 on the SSD, then install the SSD on the original laptop and try startup repair?

    If you've tried this already nevermind, but this may be an option to repair the boot on the original laptop https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/5...lure-boot.html

    Grasping at straws here, but you've tried most everything that might be suggested with no resolution.

    P.S. on my computer I've always had retail installs so a recovery drive was never created on any OS install, but the W10 iso gives the same repair options and capability if you boot from the USB iso.
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  4.    03 Jan 2016 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by CmmTch View Post
    This might be a workaround to get W10 to boot, you've mentioned W10 installs on the new SSD on another computer, but won't boot on the original laptop. Have you considered doing that to get W10 on the SSD, then install the SSD on the original laptop and try startup repair?

    If you've tried this already nevermind, but this may be an option to repair the boot on the original laptop https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/5...lure-boot.html

    Grasping at straws here, but you've tried most everything that might be suggested with no resolution.

    P.S. on my computer I've always had retail installs so a recovery drive was never created on any OS install, but the W10 iso gives the same repair options and capability if you boot from the USB iso.
    Yes unfortunately I already tried this, startup repair is unable to repair any issue.
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  5.    03 Jan 2016 #15
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    Well crap hopefully somebody will come along with other ideas and things to try. Since it works in another computer it would seem it's something in the laptop stopping it from competing an install.

    I'm at a loss, I guess if it were me I wouldn't be able to resist trying to get something going.

    I looked back over the thread and didn't see this, if W10 will install as an upgrade on the Win7 HDD in the original laptop, do that, then you can created a backup/image to an external drive from the W10 HDD. Remove the HDD, install the SSD, boot from install media, and do a repair install of the backup/image to the SSD from the backup you created.

    I've done it that way a couple times with Win7 to move to a new SSD and once with W10, had to run startup repair to get it to boot from the SSD after the backup/image install.

    Sorry if you've tried that, but there's really not much left AFAIK.

    P.S. remove all drives except the new SSD and the drive with the image on it when you're running the repair install backup/image.
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  6.    03 Jan 2016 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by CmmTch View Post
    Well crap hopefully somebody will come along with other ideas and things to try. Since it works in another computer it would seem it's something in the laptop stopping it from competing an install.

    I'm at a loss, I guess if it were me I wouldn't be able to resist trying to get something going.

    I looked back over the thread and didn't see this, if W10 will install as an upgrade on the Win7 HDD in the original laptop, do that, then you can created a backup/image to an external drive from the W10 HDD. Remove the HDD, install the SSD, boot from install media, and do a repair install of the backup/image to the SSD from the backup you created.

    I've done it that way a couple times with Win7 to move to a new SSD and once with W10, had to run startup repair to get it to boot from the SSD after the backup/image install.

    Sorry if you've tried that, but there's really not much left AFAIK.

    P.S. remove all drives except the new SSD and the drive with the image on it when you're running the repair install backup/image.
    Thanks a lot for your help man. Your idea about upgrade to w10/restore from backup and another user who suggested format a partition using mini partition tool lead me to the option to clone the old disk to the ssd (as I was kind of afraid of running the upgrade on my working drive in case it wouldn't boot after), the clone completed and I'm booting windows 7 from the SSD now

    Although my goal was to do a clean install, I will try the upgrade from 7 to 10 option and see if there in an option for a clean install. Thanks!!
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  7.    03 Jan 2016 #17
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    Hi,

    I will try the upgrade from 7 to 10 option and see if there in an option for a clean install. Thanks!!
    Not that I can remember but I wouldn't worry about a clean install or an upgrade install. I can't spot any difference in my experience.

    Cheers and best of luck,
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  8.    03 Jan 2016 #18
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    I concur with fdegrove on the upgrade versus clean install, I guess if your box is totally hosed with a huge amount of crap, that may be a way to go, otherwise I'd stick with the upgrade. I have far too many favorites and many, many small items that would be a huge PIA to replace, upgrade keeps all that in place.

    Both times with W10 I've done an upgrade, first time from windows update, second time from downloading the iso for 10586 and doing an upgrade from the iso (windows update refused to work as far as moving to W10 10586)

    Glad to hear you've got things going and again, if you've built up things over the years on your Win7 I'd do an upgrade. Even if you haven't built up much on Win7, in reading over tenforums, the consenses seems to be there's not a noticeable difference between clean install and an upgrade.
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