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  1. Kari's Avatar
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       #11

    @whs, what you have experienced is due Two-Step verification which you have turned on. It is of course up to you alone if you decide to use this added security feature or turn it off. This screenshot from MS account's security options page:

    Ridiculous installation requirement-2015-01-02_15h12_48.png

    More: Microsoft Account "Two-step Verification" - Turn On or Off.

    In my case, I have Two-Step verification on with a secondary email address, a mobile phone number and the Microsoft Authenticator app installed on my Windows phone. In my case when installing Windows and using an MS Account for initial sign in I will get this:

    Ridiculous installation requirement-2015-01-02_15h40_11.png

    If I have no access to my Windows Phone or for another reason want to use an alternative method, I can select phone or email:

    Ridiculous installation requirement-2015-01-02_15h44_56.png

    Conclusion: You will only be asked the security code sent by email if you have set up the Two-Step verification feature and email is the only option (you will not use the Authenticator app nor have you given a phone number in your MS Account security settings).

    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 02 Jan 2015 at 15:01. Reason: Fixed some typos
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  2. davehc's Avatar
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       #12

    Saltgrass said:
    Can I assume you have all seen the notice of the Insider Program Terms of Use changing in January? I have tried to check it a couple of times and have not seen the changes to which they refer.
    Yes, Saltgrass. Darned nuisance. every time I go on the forum it sticks in my face, even after acknowledging it. There doesn't seem to be any way to cancel it as read.
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  3. ThrashZone's Avatar
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       #13

    I actually love this security system Microsoft has came up with
    They sent a normal activation key 25 letters/ numbers catch is the code box asks for 7 numbers only
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  4. ThrashZone's Avatar
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       #14

    davehc said:
    Saltgrass said:
    Can I assume you have all seen the notice of the Insider Program Terms of Use changing in January? I have tried to check it a couple of times and have not seen the changes to which they refer.
    Yes, Saltgrass. Darned nuisance. every time I go on the forum it sticks in my face, even after acknowledging it. There doesn't seem to be any way to cancel it as read.
    Which forum Answers... or TechNet
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       #15

    davehc said:
    Yes, Saltgrass. Darned nuisance. every time I go on the forum it sticks in my face, even after acknowledging it. There doesn't seem to be any way to cancel it as read.
    I suppose since the notice shows a date of Dec. 22, that would align with the announcement for Jan. 21, since I believe 30 days notice are necessary. But I have not seen the actual changes, so this notice would not really fulfill the 30 day notice requirement.

    ThrashZone, the notice is on the Microsoft Community, Technical Preview forum.
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  6. whs's Avatar
    whs
    Posts : 1,935
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    Thread Starter
       #16

    Kari said:
    @whs, what you have experienced is due Two-Step verification which you have turned on. It is of course up to you alone if you decide to use this added security feature or turn it off. This screenshot from MS account's security options page:

    Ridiculous installation requirement-2015-01-02_15h12_48.png

    More: Microsoft Account "Two-step Verification" - Turn On or Off.

    In my case, I have Two-Step verification on with a secondary email address, a mobile phone number and the Microsoft Authenticator app installed on my Windows phone. In my case when installing Windows and using an MS Account for initial sign in I will get this:

    Ridiculous installation requirement-2015-01-02_15h40_11.png

    If I have no access to my Windows Phone or for another reason want to use an alternative method, I can select phone or email:

    Ridiculous installation requirement-2015-01-02_15h44_56.png

    Conclusion: You will only be asked the security code sent by email if you have set up the Two-Step verification feature and email is the only option (you will not use the Authenticator app nor have you have given a phone number in your MS Account security settings).

    Kari
    Thanks Kari. That is a very nice explanation of the options. But I did not turn on any 2 step verification. I just threw in the .iso and installed. It must be the default setting. The secondary email does not help the guy who has only 1 PC and nothing else.
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  7. Kari's Avatar
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       #17

    Wolfgang, if the secondary email and Two-Step verification are not earlier set up in MS Account's security settings, Windows installation will not ask the code. That secondary email only exists because the user (that's you :)) has at some point both A) set up the secondary email and B) enabled Two-Step verification.

    Check your MS Account, it's security settings and remove Two-Step verification or add a mobile number. Your issue has nothing to with installing Windows 10 Tech preview, it has everything to do with the security settings of your MS Account.

    Kari
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  8. whs's Avatar
    whs
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       #18

    Thanks Kari. I don't really have a problem myself since I have multiple PCs and tablets in this room and can always access my mail. But this will be helpful for the poor bloke that has only 1 PC and no other device.
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  9. ThrashZone's Avatar
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       #19

    Yes it is cell phone access dependent either by email or text,
    I finally gone my 120 + days issue resolved what a pain that was :/
    I almost deleted the email account after finally gaining access to security settings

    Microsoft Community is Answers.Microsoft.com
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  10. Slartybart's Avatar
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       #20

    Kari said:
    Wolfgang, if the secondary email and Two-Step verification are not earlier set up in MS Account's security settings, Windows installation will not ask the code. That secondary email only exists because the user (that's you :)) has at some point both A) set up the secondary email and B) enabled Two-Step verification.

    Check your MS Account, it's security settings and remove Two-Step verification or add a mobile number. Your issue has nothing to with installing Windows 10 Tech preview, it has everything to do with the security settings of your MS Account.

    Kari
    Kari's explanation makes sense ... as does Jimbo's

    As I said before, I've never had the extra verification step Wolfgang described.

    Following Kari's advice: check your Microsoft Account security options and change if it if the 2-step process is enabled (and if you do not want the extra security). If you want to keep the 2-step security on your MS account, then Jimbo's advice (disconnect for the install and setup a local account on the machine) should get you around the 'issue'.

    Kari has some other good advice on MS account requirements for apps as well. Some will prompt you to change to a MS account, but down near the [next] and [cancel] buttons there is a text link that states that you can sign in for the app individually (not recommended). The not recommended is part of the text, not my recommendation - I only connect to my MS Account for individual apps (Mail, OneDrive, Store, and Feedback). I don't need or want to always be connected to my MS account - I'm with Jimbo on that. Everyone will find a method that suits their needs. Kari has most of this figured out and I defer to his expertise.

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