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  1.    19 Jan 2015 #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    You can install W10 with ZERO connection to the Internet.
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I know what happens if one doesn't connect physically.
    Yes, I remember your earlier post where you stated that you “Just disconnect the internet at Set up account” Do you physically pull the Ethernet cable while installing? I’m assuming physically by the way you explained it. https://www.tenforums.com/installatio...tml#post177111

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I wonder what happens if one doesn't connect during the install process only to connect at a later time. Somewhere along the line one has to connect to the internet, which is another factor. It must change the install process.
    What I meant by this is connecting to WiFi during the process. I should have made it clearer.
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  2.    19 Jan 2015 #132
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    I disconnected when I reformatted and it was okay, no problem. I don't know if MS had a way of remembering for local account that I set up the first time.
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  3.    19 Jan 2015 #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I am impressed. I never thought that my little rant would generate so much useful input. Thanks guys. We are already on page 13 - unbelievable.
    I've yet to see you start a frivolous thread, Wolfgang.
    Yeah, I try to stay 'professional' - an old habit. LOL
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  4.    21 Jan 2015 #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma View Post
    I disconnected when I reformatted and it was okay, no problem. I don't know if MS had a way of remembering for local account that I set up the first time.
    Emma, please don't get confused.

    If you create a user account with anyone (Microsoft.com, Google.com, Tenforums.com, WhateverYourLocalSupermarketIs.com) they will TRY to remember you. They will store your IP address (which will tell them where you are from).

    Some companies will share the information they gained with others. You probably agreed to it but amongst the other 10 pages of junk agreed to it anyway.

    I don't think Microsoft are more evil than others, but then I don't believe aliens landed in Studio 54.
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  5.    21 Jan 2015 #135
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    Adam I look at computer safety like I look at my home safety. I do the best I can to protect...Then I don't worry about it. I haven't heard anything really bad about MS, but have about Google. I stop all of google cookies from getting on my computer except google-com. I use the search engine so I have to allow that one.
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  6.    21 Jan 2015 #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma View Post
    Adam I look at computer safety like I look at my home safety. I do the best I can to protect...Then I don't worry about it. I haven't heard anything really bad about MS, but have about Google. I stop all of google cookies from getting on my computer except google-com. I use the search engine so I have to allow that one.
    That is of course your prerogative. I'd trust MS more than Google personally. Try DuckDuckGohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you would like a more private search engine without too much hassle.
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  7.    21 Jan 2015 #137
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    I don't think Microsoft are more evil than others, but then I don't believe aliens landed in Studio 54.

    Area 51?

    I don't believe in aliens (Sorry Brink)

    The only way people or companies get your personal information is if you give it to them. Have you ever filled in your name, address, and telephone to win a free cruise? You just gave them explicit consent to use your information. A few years ago, your personal information was estimated to be worth about $700.00 USD.

    There's some really interesting things organizations do to try and figure out how to sell something to you - that's based on your habits. It isn't personal information, it's just really, really, really good guesses.

    Tracking cookies can supply the data of your habits, but so can purchases.
    If you clear your cookies, there is no habit (things change and they're using other methods than cookies).

    Every site uses some analytics for marketing. The biggest is Google analytics (I think). At a minimum, your IP is visible to any site. Depending on your security settings and cookie policy - there might be a lot more. Weather maps know my location and Retail stores know which store is nearest or that I shopped last.

    There's not much we can do about this - we live in the age of technology.

    I'll paraphrase adamf As a general rule, I don't think organizations are intent on doing bad things. I do believe that a very, very, very small number of people are intent on doing bad things. History is full of despots and they drove nations to do bad things. The nation wasn't bad - the people weren't bad, the despot - yeah bad.

    This is from 2012, but it's a good primer.
    HTG Explains: Learn How Websites Are Tracking You Online
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  8.    21 Jan 2015 #138
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    Thank you Adam, I have in installed duckduckgo search engine and will give it a try.
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  9.    23 Jan 2015 #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Advanced productivity programs" ?? - apart from the fact that about 90 % of the worlds servers are running on some time of Linux - and people on these very forums say they can do all sort of work on Android tablets (android is only another variant of Linux).
    90% of the worlds servers are not running on Linux. In fact that number is more skewed the other way (probably not 90%, but still more than 50%).

    You are falling victim to the standard Netcraft "host name survey" myths that keep getting repeated.

    Yes, it's true that a large number of the internet's "hostnames" are hosted on open source (ie non-Microsoft IIS) web servers, but there is not a direct 1:1 mapping of hostnames to physical servers, nor is there even a direct mapping of web server software to OS (Apache runs on Windows, for instance).

    Believe it or not, in July and August of 2014, Microsoft's IIS was actually the most popular Web server software based on hostname according to Netcraft at 38%.

    Using these statistics are flawed for a number of reasons. First, you can host many domain names (ie host names) on a single server. In fact, non-IIS sites are more skewed towards hosting more sites per physical server because hosting providers often tend to run these systems for shared hosting, while IIS is more skewed towards companies who tend to host a smaller number of domains on their servers. Certainly, there are IIS based hosting providers, even quite large ones. But the numbers overall are very different on average.

    Second, as I mentioned, You can run Apache or other servers on Windows and many people do because they are using Java based software like forums or applications and they have Windows hardware. So just because it's not IIS doesn't mean it's not Windows.

    Third, There's a lot more servers out there than just public facing web servers. There's database servers, file servers, reporting servers, batch job processors, and Hypervisors (Hyper-V), among others.. so it's simply not accurate to say that 90% of servers are not Windows.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    The GIMP is an excellent imaging program which for most people covers around 80% of what Photoshop does and its FREE. For OFFICE you can use WPS Office for Linux which is free and far better than IMO Libreoffice and is pretty compatible with Ms Office.
    The only people that claim The GIMP is an excellent imaging program are people that do not regularly use imaging programs to any great degree. It's complex, horrific user interface is badly designed and it simply lacks too many features to be usable by anyone other than amateurs, which is ironic because its interface is so bad that only a professional would be committed enough to learn it.

    But oh well. I'm not a huge Photoshop fan either, but PS is the defacto standard. If you have to have a terrible user interface, at least have the features you need. Gimp just gives you all the pain with none of the gain. There are a multitude of very capable third party photo, graphics, and structured drawing programs for Windows.. some of which exist for Linux as well, usually in some ancient version.
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  10.    23 Jan 2015 #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    .....
    Second, as I mentioned, You can run Apache or other servers on Windows and many people do because they are using Java based software like forums or applications and they have Windows hardware. So just because it's not IIS doesn't mean it's not Windows.
    ....
    The only people that claim The GIMP is an excellent imaging program are people that do not regularly use imaging programs to any great degree. It's complex, horrific user interface is badly designed and it simply lacks too many features to be usable by anyone other than amateurs, which is ironic because its interface is so bad that only a professional would be committed enough to learn it.
    .....
    What qualifies as Windows hardware?
    and they have Windows hardware

    I used PS when the company paid for it, it really is a powerful application. But now I use Gimp.
    I think Gimp is a good graphics editor with enough power to do what I need. More than red-eye removal and autocorrect.
    The feature set is broad enough, I probably only use 40-45% of it.

    I guess I'm what you might call an amateur professional because I was committed enough to learn the interface.
    There was pain and there was gain (free)

    Don't leave me hanging ... what are some of the multitude of very capable third party photo, graphics, and structured drawing programs for Windows that you suggest?

    Thanks,

    Bill
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