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  1.    04 Dec 2015 #1
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    Cloned OS from HDD to SSD; good install? Have doubts


    New Dell XPS 8900 desktop with OEM Win10 and 1TB HDD. Did all the Windows updates including a big one. Then, added a SanDisk 240GB SSD. Cloned HDD over to SSD with included Apricorn EZ Gig IV. Disconnected HDD and SSD seems to run fine. Installed a few programs and did some web browsing. Created recovery media. Seemed safe enough to reformat HDD for data use only.

    Then, with only the SSD connected, I used "Backup and Restore (Windows 7)" to create a system repair disk on DVD-R. Why it says Win7, I don't know. There is no other Dell or Windows recovery software. Anyway, get an error message to, "insert Windows installation disk; the files needed to create a system repair disk were not found on this computer. You can still create a system repair disk if you have a Windows installation disk."

    I then disconnected the SSD and re-connected the OEM HDD. Was able to create the repair disk with no problem. Disconnected HDD and reconnected SSD. Same error. Although Windows seems to run fine on the SSD, I'm a bit concerned that this error means something is amiss with the Windows cloning.

    Then tried Windows Update with the SSD. There is one available but when I try to install it get an error that, "Some update files are missing or have problems. We'll try to download the update again later. Error code (0x80070570)." Tried again, same error. I previously did all Windows Updates before cloning over to SSD.

    Back to the OEM HDD and the one available update, KB 3116908, cumulative update to Win10 v1511, triggered different errors, which looking online seems to be a common error with this update. Does not appear to be the same error trying to do the update on the SSD.

    I created a clone backup image on a USB flash drive with the Apricorn. I also created one on an external USB HDD with the included Windows 7 image software. Is it safe for me to reformat the OEM HDD and ignore this issue? Seems not. Should I just re-clone the SSD? Last one only took 7 minutes so not a time factor. Is there a way to verify the clone install on SSD is good to go before reformatting OEM HDD? Thanks.
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  2.    04 Dec 2015 #2
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    Did you clone all the partitions from the OEM HDD, there should be at least three partitions in total. How many partitions do you have on the SSD?
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  3.    04 Dec 2015 #3
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    I let the cloning software handle the partitions automatically, see attached screenshots. BTW, Windows Update 1511 did take on the OEM HDD but still get the same error message on the SSD. Thanks.
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  4.    04 Dec 2015 #4
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    You could run the sfc /scannow check in an elevated command prompt to verfiy that the SSD clone has no system file errors.
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  5.    04 Dec 2015 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by philc43 View Post
    You could run the sfc /scannow check in an elevated command prompt to verfiy that the SSD clone has no system file errors.
    I ran it with both drives connected, I assume it just checked the SSD C drive. No system file errors.
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  6.    04 Dec 2015 #6
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    I would suspect that your cloning process did not work as intended. I had a similar experience with cloning. Rather than cloning I suggest you use a trusted imaging program like free Macrium, make an image and then restore that image with the help of the recovery CD that you must first create. Here is a tutorial I once made:

    Imaging with free Macrium - Windows 7 Help Forums
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  7.    04 Dec 2015 #7
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    Seconding the recommendation for Macrium Reflect Free. It can also do cloning but the image/restore sequence is the one I've preferentially used in upgrading HDDs to SSDs.
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  8.    05 Dec 2015 #8
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    The Macrium backup image is running now. I think I selected "exact copy" instead of default intelligent copy. Is that a problem imaging a 1TB HDD then installing it on a 240GB SSD. Will the "exact copy" just copy the 68GB of data on five partitions or include the 930GB of empty space and try and install that on the smaller SSD causing a problem?
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  9.    05 Dec 2015 #9
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    I think 'intelligent copy' adjusts to the size of the target device whilst 'exact copy'will require a target device of the same size or larger.
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  10.    05 Dec 2015 #10
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    Either way, do you suggest canceling the "exact copy" (halfway through) and going with "intelligent copy?" Do you usually use "intelligent copy" for what I'm doing? Thanks.
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