Windows 10: Clean install using USB, cannot verify key as no network

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  1.    31 Oct 2015 #1

    Clean install using USB, cannot verify key as no network


    Having a frustrating day.
    My kids Windows 7 machine had major issues, so decided to do a fresh Windows7 install. Format disk etc. install worked, windows update did not. Would do nothing but say "checking for updates", for hours, and hours. Spent 6 hours trying to fix that when i said what the heck, lets go to Windows 10.
    I have a windows 7 OEM key.

    I used the tool to download and create a USB install and went from there.

    Windows 10 goes through the install phase without issue, asks for the key, i provide the Windows 7 OEM key. Hangs for like 10 seconds then says the key is not usable.
    I sit there scratching my head. I can do a Windows 7 reinstall on this machine with the key, but not a Windows 10 ?
    Windows 10 upgrade website says you can do a fresh install in this way, using the Windows 7 key.

    I talked to a MS guy, who i am sorry to say was pretty useless. Kept wanting to connect to my computer to take a look, despite me not having completed the install because the key would not work.

    BUT, here is the root of the problem i believe, i have no network connection, because Windows10 seemed to not install a driver for it. No green light on back of machine(when i do a fresh windows7 install, it does install a driver, and all is good).

    I download the necessary driver from the MSI website, use the "install driver option" from the Win10 screen asking me for a windows key, yet the driver install files wont even show up when i click browse.

    Then i click the "skip" option, thinking i can go into Windows, install the drivers that way and then put my key in later. Heh, stupid me, no, clicking skip just takes you back where it will reinstall everything and then ask you for the key again.
    So, install, skip, install, skip, install, skip.....

    Pretty disgusted with MS right about now.

    Can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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  2. Posts : 3,034
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       31 Oct 2015 #2

    Did this PC ever get the notification for Windows 10 upgrade in the notification area ? Files get downloaded to the PC before this issue ever ? Did you want to upgrade and keep old OS to revert back before 30 days, because after 30 days you can not revert back ? You do have disc of Windows 7 or is it as a recovery on the hard drive ? I would either get Windows 7 working well first, we can try doing upgrade again from media creation tool, unless want a clean install for windows 10 i can show you a way, but will loose all software on PC so will need to back them up or have disc to reinstall them.
    No key is needed for Windows 10 upgrade so something must of went wrong.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2267-windows-10-upgrade-installation.html


    Clean install without upgrade first, before this backup files and software, possible make a system image of Windows 7 if no recovery discs.
    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First
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  3.    31 Oct 2015 #3

    I would love to follow your cleaninstall instructions, however, as i said, when i click on the SKIP option when asked for a windows key, it does not complete my install, rather it cycles round and starts the install afresh.
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  4. Posts : 3,034
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       31 Oct 2015 #4

    In your case i would try the upgrade process first as you can always do a clean install after you know all is working and activated for windows 10. Having network issues, why i said to go back to Windows 7, resolve that issue first. OEM license should not be an issue means PC was shipped with Windows 7. Follow link i sent for upgrade again. I asked did you ever receive the notification for the upgrade before attempting any of this ?
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  5. Posts : 1,875
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       31 Oct 2015 #5

    Re-install windows 7 and verify that it is activated..
    Then run Setup.exe from the windows 10 setup media while in windows 7
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  6.    31 Oct 2015 #6

    LOL ok forget it, i guess i needed to remove the USB before skipping.
    It now finishes the install and then asks for the key again, now i have network but it still says bad key. Now i know why.
    I guess i have to reinstall 7, follow this step guide before going clean on 10.
    But i do not have faith in being able to create the genuineticket file if i am not able to update Windows7 past the base SP1.

    NOTE: I could not do the Windows10 upgrade from base Windows7 SP1 (after fresh install of Windows7), i would download the tool and it just would not do anything.
    NOTE2: yes i did get the Windows10 notification on the machine some time ago.

    Thanks for your help.
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  7. Posts : 3,034
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       31 Oct 2015 #7

    Do need Windows 7 SP1 to upgrade. Why pull USB if that is where you made upgrade from Media Creation tool ? As said make sure all is well with Windows 7 before you proceed.

    Another way to, besides ones i already linked.
    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/9...-download.html
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  8.    31 Oct 2015 #8

    merpman2001 said: View Post
    LOL ok forget it, i guess i needed to remove the USB before skipping.
    It now finishes the install and then asks for the key again, now i have network but it still says bad key. Now i know why.
    I guess i have to reinstall 7, follow this step guide before going clean on 10.
    But i do not have faith in being able to create the genuineticket file if i am not able to update Windows7 past the base SP1.

    NOTE: I could not do the Windows10 upgrade from base Windows7 SP1 (after fresh install of Windows7), i would download the tool and it just would not do anything.
    NOTE2: yes i did get the Windows10 notification on the machine some time ago.

    Thanks for your help.
    You need to do exactly what Kyhi posted in step #5. It's as easy as that. Install Windows 7. Make sure it is activated with the OEM Product Key for it. You don't have to update it at all. Put in the Windows 10 USB and run setup.exe from it from inside Windows 7. If you downloaded the Windows 10 version that matches your Windows 7 version, it will upgrade without asking for a product key.
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  9.    31 Oct 2015 #9

    I think your missing my original point. I am failing to upgrade Windows7 past SP1. I install Windows7 SP1 fine, but the windows update just hangs with the message "checking for updates". It hangs for hours, 6 of them. I manually installed the latest windows update, still does it.
    Followed countless other possibilities to fix this issue from various forums, still does not update.
    I cannot update my Windows7 beyond SP1.

    The windows10 updater does not work at this point, and as i have just tried executing the gatherosstate.exe as admin, this produces no file either.

    Like i said, pretty disgusted with MS.
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  10.    31 Oct 2015 #10

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    You need to do exactly what Kyhi posted in step #5. It's as easy as that. Install Windows 7. Make sure it is activated with the OEM Product Key for it. You don't have to update it at all. Put in the Windows 10 USB and run setup.exe from it from inside Windows 7. If you downloaded the Windows 10 version that matches your Windows 7 version, it will upgrade without asking for a product key.
    I do this, execute setup from the USB and it does nothing.
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