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  1.    06 Nov 2014 #11
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    Here's how the elevated bcdedit Command is listed looks.
    Click image for larger version. 

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  2.    06 Nov 2014 #12
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    Yes, the Windows 7 bootmgr can be repaired by running startup repair 3 times. And this is a further explanation:

    Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times - Windows 7 Help Forums
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  3.    06 Nov 2014 #13
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    Sorry whs for all the questions but I'm confused.

    To answer my post, No, uninstall of Windows 10 is not simple!

    My PC dual boots fine. Both Windows 7 & Windows TR (10) are preforming very well. I'm not wanting to uninstall Windows TP yet, just preparing to make sure I do it correctly. Would this be the correct procedure?


    1. Set Windows 7 as default OS.
    2. Boot into Windows 7
    3. Start msconfig
    4. Select Windows Technical Preview & check Make all boot settings permanent
    5. Select OK to delete & exit System Configuration
    6. It may be required to reboot PC (not sure).
    7. After reboot or if reboot isn't required, go to Disk Management & delete Windows TP partition & add that space back to its original HDD


    Is the above correct or what did I miss?

    I do have my Windows 7 install DVD but not sure if anything else is needed if there's a problem. EasyBSD was suggested but why purchase software when I have the install DVD for repairs?
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  4.    06 Nov 2014 #14
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    I guess that is one way to do it. And you are right - the Windows recovery DVD can be used to reconfigure the bootmgr in case that this gets mucked up. You can also get a Win7 .iso from here.

    At the time when I wrote this tutorial EasyBCD was freeware. It's only since recently that they charge for it.
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  5.    06 Nov 2014 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by GARoss View Post
    Sorry whs for all the questions but I'm confused.

    To answer my post, No, uninstall of Windows 10 is not simple!

    My PC dual boots fine. Both Windows 7 & Windows TR (10) are preforming very well. I'm not wanting to uninstall Windows TP yet, just preparing to make sure I do it correctly. Would this be the correct procedure?


    1. Set Windows 7 as default OS.
    2. Boot into Windows 7
    3. Start msconfig
    4. Select Windows Technical Preview & check Make all boot settings permanent
    5. Select OK to delete & exit System Configuration
    6. It may be required to reboot PC (not sure).
    7. After reboot or if reboot isn't required, go to Disk Management & delete Windows TP partition & add that space back to its original HDD


    Is the above correct or what did I miss?

    I do have my Windows 7 install DVD but not sure if anything else is needed if there's a problem. EasyBSD was suggested but why purchase software when I have the install DVD for repairs?
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I guess that is one way to do it. And you are right - the Windows recovery DVD can be used to reconfigure the bootmgr in case that this gets mucked up. You can also get a Win7 .iso from here.

    At the time when I wrote this tutorial EasyBCD was freeware. It's only since recently that they charge for it.
    Years ago I used EasyBCD while trying Linux & it was free.

    I went ahead & followed steps 1-7 & all went smooth. After step 5, I had the choice of rebooting now or later. I chose now & booted into Win 7 with no problem. Disk Management was a breeze. All in all it all the whole process took about 10 minutes!

    From what I've seen, Windows 10 looks good. It's quite different than Win 7 but no big deal. At this time I really don't have time to work with Win 10 all that much but Win 10 seems to be very stable anyway.

    My best to everyone. Thanks for all who helped!
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  6.    07 Nov 2014 #16

    Your screenshot shows that the System partition booting both OS's is System Reserved on Disk0 as signified by the System flag. This is to be expected when you install another OS - it merely updates the boot files already residing on the other OS's System partition.

    We know this for sure because you are booted into the TP as signified by the Boot flag on its partition - that's all that flag means, what's presently booted.

    So you were good to go to simply delete the TP when ready without worry about Win7 remaining bootable.

    It seems since posting the screenshot you removed the Boot menu listing via mscconfig>Boot. This only removes the listing in the boot menu and does not delete the OS which is done by deleting its partition in Disk Mgmt.

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  7.    07 Nov 2014 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
    Your screenshot shows that the System partition booting both OS's is System Reserved on Disk0 as signified by the System flag. This is to be expected when you install another OS - it merely updates the boot files already residing on the other OS's System partition.

    We know this for sure because you are booted into the TP as signified by the Boot flag on its partition - that's all that flag means, what's presently booted.

    So you were good to go to simply delete the TP when ready without worry about Win7 remaining bootable.

    It seems since posting the screenshot you removed the Boot menu listing via mscconfig>Boot. This only removes the listing in the boot menu and does not delete the OS which is done by deleting its partition in Disk Mgmt.

    Thanks GregRocker. Actually, I did delete & expanded D: to its original capacity again but didn't phrase my explanation, "...Disk Management was a breeze. All in all it all the whole process took about 10 minutes!", clearly.

    It can be fun, but risky for a novice like myself to venture in unknown areas such as untested OS. Novice intentions are good & we want to contribute but we fail to know the in & out how-to's. We are at the mercy of those who have multiple OS platform knowledge & the history behind each one. A novice boots their computer most every day.

    Apparently, Windows has changed how their boot works since Win 7 (?). All my user PC info is listed in this forums System Specs at the bottom of my post. I built my PC & clean installed Win 7 with the install DVD. This partitioned my unused SSD HDD with System Reserve where the boot is located. Other PC makers, Dell & HP, do this differently. Win 8 uses uEFI, not BIOS (?) so it boots differently. As a novice, I had no idea where the boot was until I did lots of reading.

    My point being there were several posts suggesting various ways to uninstall Win 10. Thanks to the members of this forum, the process was made clear & was actually an easy procedure.
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  8.    07 Nov 2014 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    At the time when I wrote this tutorial EasyBCD was freeware. It's only since recently that they charge for it.
    There is still a EasyBCD free version available at the vendor's website:
    https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

    It seems they requested Download.com remove the direct-download link for this.
    Maybe the link in the tutorial should be updated ?
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  9.    07 Nov 2014 #19

    It's not really that much different from Win7 disk configuration so far. The System partition is booting the OS or Dual Boot, Active flag points to the intended System partition, Boot flag means the OS that is presently booted from that partition.

    Logical partitions cannot hold System flags until converted, but can host OS install.

    It's always best to ask for a screenshot of Disk Management - How to Post a Screenshot of or else blind instructions may be given that won't work due to Logical partitions, EFI install instead of Legacy MBR format, a derailed System partition onto data partition about 30% of the time.

    EFI is different since there may be two System partitions but no Active flags or Logical in GPT format.

    Here is the good stable link I have for EasyBCD (click Download - no Name or Email required)
    from it's author's site.
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  10.    07 Nov 2014 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
    It's always best to ask for a screenshot of Disk Management - How to Post a Screenshot of or else blind instructions may be given that won't work due to Logical partitions, EFI install instead of Legacy MBR format, a derailed System partition onto data partition about 30% of the time.
    This is great advice. This should be SOP. This would allow all posters to understand the thread starters system in order to make accurate suggestions.

    I downloaded EasyBCD 2.2 for future use. Thanks!
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