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  1.    26 Oct 2015 #11
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by tjg79 View Post
    Thanks for the reply spapakons.

    I've found a few utilities that display product keys. Do you know if that you install the Win 10 as you've indicated and use a license key utility on the Win 10 install, will it display a Win 10 license key that can be used for subsequent clean installs without copying the upgrade file to the appropriate folder?

    Regards
    I'll save you the trouble of running Showkey Plus from this forum and tell you what your product key is:
    Windows 10 Pro: VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T

    Everybody gets the same product key (depending on version) from an upgrade. If you switch motherboards, you will have two options:

    1. Reinstall Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 and upgrade again to Windows 10

    or

    2. Call Microsoft and beg them to activate your Windows 10 for you.
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  2.    26 Oct 2015 #12
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by Joergi View Post
    For the exchange of some hardware components:

    Windows will still activate after you exchanged components. But there is one important exception: If you currently have an OEM licence, which you are upgrading to Windows 10, and if you then exchange the motherboard, Windows 10 will no longer activate. OEM licences are bound to the motherboard. Retail licences however can be used on another PC, and also on the original one after the motherboard has been changed.

    That being said, there have been reports of people, who changed the motherboard in order to repair a PC, then phoned Microsoft, explained the situation and Microsoft then did activate their OEM licence on that system. Anyway, if Microsoft does that, it is purely good will on their site - they don't have to and if you're unlucky maybe they don't do that for you.
    Thanks for the reply.

    Can the Win 10 OS detect a motherboard change if you swap out the same model motherboard? Does the Win 10 OS identify the motherboard serial number? I've got a few spare same model motherboards, and I wondering if I'll have an issue if I swap one out or upgrade the cpu.

    Regards
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  3.    26 Oct 2015 #13
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Joergi View Post
    For the exchange of some hardware components:

    Windows will still activate after you exchanged components. But there is one important exception: If you currently have an OEM licence, which you are upgrading to Windows 10, and if you then exchange the motherboard, Windows 10 will no longer activate. OEM licences are bound to the motherboard. Retail licences however can be used on another PC, and also on the original one after the motherboard has been changed.

    That being said, there have been reports of people, who changed the motherboard in order to repair a PC, then phoned Microsoft, explained the situation and Microsoft then did activate their OEM licence on that system. Anyway, if Microsoft does that, it is purely good will on their site - they don't have to and if you're unlucky maybe they don't do that for you.
    The difference is a repair install versus an upgrade install of an OEM mobo. A repair install is done under the warranty conditions of the manufacturer (manufacturer's recommended replacement part). An upgrade install is usually done with a retail motherboard.
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  4.    26 Oct 2015 #14
    Join Date : Sep 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    If you want to test Windows 10 on different hardware, then you could just skip activation the first time it deactivates because of a change. You have 90 days, if I am correct to test your hardware and make any changes you like (provided you can still boot into Windows 10 each time). Before 90 days expire, hopefully you'll have made your mind about the final hardware configuration, you can activate Windows 10 once and for all.

    Regarding same model motherboards, the serial is important, but since the rest of the hardware is identical this would be a minor difference regarded as a replacement for a faulty motherboard. So you should be able to activate online. If not call Microsoft and explain that your first motherboard died and was replaced. But do it once! Not 2-3 times!
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  5.    26 Oct 2015 #15
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by spapakons View Post
    If you want to test Windows 10 on different hardware, then you could just skip activation the first time it deactivates because of a change. You have 90 days, if I am correct to test your hardware and make any changes you like (provided you can still boot into Windows 10 each time). Before 90 days expire, hopefully you'll have made your mind about the final hardware configuration, you can activate Windows 10 once and for all.
    The 90 days applies to Windows 10 Enterprise as a trial copy.
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  6.    26 Oct 2015 #16
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    Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    I'll save you the trouble of running Showkey Plus from this forum and tell you what your product key is:
    Windows 10 Pro: VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T

    Everybody gets the same product key (depending on version) from an upgrade. If you switch motherboards, you will have two options:

    1. Reinstall Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 and upgrade again to Windows 10

    or

    2. Call Microsoft and beg them to activate your Windows 10 for you.
    Thanks for the reply.

    If you haven't gone through the upgrade process, but have downloaded the Win 10 OS, burned it to a DVD, performed a clean install, enter the product key you posted, will the Win 10 activate and record the hardware so that the hardware and product key are linked?

    Regards
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  7.    26 Oct 2015 #17
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    It usually activates automatically after an upgrade from 7 or 8. For a clean install I think you must click on activate to do it. But even then, it should deactivate upon changing the motherboard and require manual activation again. Just try your hardware changes for a few days and activate once and for all at the end when you have made up your mind.
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  8.    26 Oct 2015 #18
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by tjg79 View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    Can the Win 10 OS detect a motherboard change if you swap out the same model motherboard? Does the Win 10 OS identify the motherboard serial number? I've got a few spare same model motherboards, and I wondering if I'll have an issue if I swap one out or upgrade the cpu.

    Regards
    Yes, Windows 10 will detect the difference between same model mobos with different serial numbers. However, your old OS does not need to. If the OEM codes in the table in the BIOS are the same for both the old and new mobos (should be) then activation is automatic on the new mobo for the old OS.

    If you have same model mobos and intend to swap one of those for the present one then you are better off doing the hardware change while still running the old OS. It is easier to reactivate an OEM repair installation than it is to change the mobo after Windows 10 is installed because Windows 10 is an upgrade.
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  9.    26 Oct 2015 #19
    Join Date : Apr 2015
    California
    Posts : 362
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Windows 10 activates automatically, the first time it is connected to the internet after an upgrade or clean install. I've done both recently and both times Windows 10 was activated automatically after my first login.

    I recently upgraded my desktop PC processor from an Intel i5-2400 to an Intel i7-2600. My Windows 10 existing activation was not affected. I also recently upgraded a laptop processor from Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 to an Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 (twice as much cache) and its existing Windows 10 activation was not affected.
    Last edited by Antilope; 26 Oct 2015 at 17:06.
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  10.    26 Oct 2015 #20
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Posts : 2,020
    Windows 10 Pro X64

    Hi,

    If you haven't gone through the upgrade process, but have downloaded the Win 10 OS, burned it to a DVD, performed a clean install, enter the product key you posted, will the Win 10 activate and record the hardware so that the hardware and product key are linked?
    You can forget about the product key, you do not need it. windows itself generates the same key over and over again per version of Win10.

    Just about any hardware can be changed/added after activation without affecting activation but not the motherboard as that's what makes your device unique (mac address etc).
    In that case you have to restart from scratch as per the third post. I've done his with a brand new machine bought without anything in the way of software coming with it. It activated as soon as I connected to the internet. YMMV but why would I be to only lucky one ?

    I wasn't aware of this "genuine.xml" trick, I suppose that's relatively recent so sorry for my ignorance.

    Cheers,
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