Need advice on Windows installation

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  1. Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1
       #1

    How to backup and clean install? Specific situation


    Hey, guys, so I need your help.
    I have an ASUS laptop with pre-installed Windows 8 Home(UEFI). I've additionaly installed Ubuntu alongside. After a while, I wanted to uninstall the Ubuntu and install another distribution but I wasn't sure how to do that, and the guides online just made it worse, as I formatted the Linux partitions but couldn't uninstall GRUB. So, now my HDD looks like in the attachment.
    I have the possibility to upgrade through Dreamspark to Windows 8.1 or to Windows 10, but would like to have a clean install.
    So, my questions are:
    1. Should I get Windows 10 EDU or Windows 8.1 Pro? I'm not sure W10 is ready, and having the 8.1 will give me the possibility to upgrade later.
    2. What do I need to backup and how do I do it? I don't really have an external HDD, so I can't backup all my data on the D:\ partition. How do I backup my current W activation key? Will I need the restore partition? What about the recovery? Ideally, I would like to have a clean install, formatting everything, except D:\.
    3. What is the correct way of uninstalling Linux?
    What do you think? And sorry about the mess on the HDD.
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    Last edited by Lorantique; 04 Oct 2015 at 04:35.
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  2. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #2

    You can download Windows 8.1 install media here, http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-refresh-media that will use your embedded 8.0 key. Verified it myself on my ASUS laptop that came with 8.0 Core. That will let you skip the 8.0 to 8.1 upgrade. I just backed up my user folders, Documents, Pictures etc to an external hard drive. Then I wiped all the factory partitions and did a clean install. If you boot from the install media and select custom install, you will have the option to delete any partitions you want, and create new ones. I've done it that way just leaving my Data partition. I then install Windows to the free space at the front of the drive. It then creates all the partitions it needs automatically.
    http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ad-create.html
    http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...e-windows.html
    http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html
    http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html
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  3. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
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    I'm currently running Windows 10 Enterprise on that same laptop. No issues with hardware etc. If you do the free upgrade from 8.1 Core your going to get 10 Home, just so you know. Once you do the upgrade and activate Windows 10, a hardware ID is stored on the activation server. You then have a Digital Entitlement for Windows 10 on that PC. When you do a clean install you just click skip when asked for a key. Then once the hardware ID is checked and verified it activates. I'm running Windows 10 Education on my desktop PC. I have an MSDN subscription so why not. It has some features Pro doesn't, namely Windows To Go. It has more features than Pro but not as many as Enterprise. IMHO if you have the option, I'd pick Education over Pro.
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/Wind...siness/Compare
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  4. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #4

    Lorantique said:
    1. Should I get Windows 10 EDU or Windows 8.1 Pro? I'm not sure W10 is ready, and having the 8.1 will give me the possibility to upgrade later.
    You can get Windows 8.1 for free - and the upgrade to Windows 10 Home from that for free. I would use the Dreamspark account for Windows 10 EDU which has all the features of Pro and more.

    Looking at your disk layout, if D: drive is all you want to save, I would use MiniTool Partition Wizard to erase everything after the D: drive partition, move the D: drive partition into the free space at the end of the disk. At that point, your computer should still boot into the old OS.

    Boot from whatever Windows install media you make, either the 8.1 or Windows 10 EDU, select custom install, delete all the partitions on the hard drive except for the D: drive which you moved to the end, and let Windows install to the big, empty unallocated space and let Windows install create the partitions it needs.

    If you want to see your existing Windows 8 key (which should be stored in bios and will not get erased with the hard drive), you can run showkey plus from this forum.

    Lorantique said:
    What about the microsoft "spying" thing?
    In my opinion, 99% media hype. But if it concerns you then don't install Windows 10.
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  5. Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1
    Thread Starter
       #5

    What about the microsoft "spying" thing?

    And I only have access to the German version of the OS. The language packs also don't include English. Would there be a possibility to install for free a language pack in the OS?
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  6. Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1
    Thread Starter
       #6

    NavyLCDR said:
    Looking at your disk layout, if D: drive is all you want to save, I would use MiniTool Partition Wizard to erase everything after the D: drive partition, move the D: drive partition into the free space at the end of the disk. At that point, your computer should still boot into the old OS.
    I won't be needing the restore partition?
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  7. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #7

    You can get English Windows 8.1 install media here, http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-refresh-media
    And English Windows 10 install media here, http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10 << No Education version there though, just Home and Pro.
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  8. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #8

    Lorantique said:
    I won't be needing the restore partition?
    The restore partition is used for 2 things.

    1. The factory restore partition can be used to restore the computer back to the original factory software state, including all the extra crapware they put on. If you never want that back and are satisfied with just plain Windows - than you can delete the factory restore partition.

    2. The restore partition that Windows creates allows you to reset the Windows installation back to a clean state without an external USB or DVD. Creating a Windows installation USB or DVD will also do exactly the same thing, so you don't need the restore partition if you have the installation media.
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  9. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #9

    alphanumeric said:
    You can get English Windows 8.1 install media here, http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-refresh-media
    And English Windows 10 install media here, http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10 << No Education version there though, just Home and Pro.
    Changing languages like that from the language that came installed on the computer will require a new product key or Windows won't activate. For example, computer comes with German Windows 8, he downloads English Windows 8, the English Windows 8 won't be able to use the product key stored in bios because the stored key is for German Windows 8. Product Keys are both language and version specific.
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  10. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #10

    NavyLCDR said:
    Changing languages like that from the language that came installed on the computer will require a new product key or Windows won't activate. For example, computer comes with German Windows 8, he downloads English Windows 8, the English Windows 8 won't be able to use the product key stored in bios because the stored key is for German Windows 8. Product Keys are both language and version specific.
    I wasn't aware they were language specific? First I've heard of that, other than the Single Language version having its own set of keys?
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