Windows 10: Windows 10 Tech Preview Tips

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  1.    17 Oct 2014 #21

    Are you saying that Factory OEM will not Clean Reinstall with retail installation media as is the case with Win7? I had not heard this but I do not support Win8. Isn't this automatic from within the BIOS?

    Given that we have had a million PC owners Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 you have to wonder what those stuck with Win8 on store bought PC's are doing - besides the long lines I saw at Best Buy returning them.
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  2.    17 Oct 2014 #22

    gregrocker said: View Post
    Are you saying that Factory OEM will not Clean Reinstall with retail installation media as is the case with Win7? I had not heard this but I do not support Win8. Isn't this automatic from within the BIOS?

    Given that we have had a million PC owners Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 you have to wonder what those stuck with Win8 on store bought PC's are doing - besides the long lines I saw at Best Buy returning them.
    No, its just that the 8/8.1 ISO download referenced in that first link Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 ISO - Download or Create won't accept OEM keys. To actually get the download you have to enter a Retail key. My TechNet ISO's, which I believe are Retail, will read and use the OEM embedded keys. My ASUS laptop came with 8.0 Core. If I use a 8.0 ISO it reads the code and installs 8.0 Core automatically without prompting for a key. it activates online with no issues too. If I use an 8.1 ISO though it won't use the 8.0 embedded code. I could install 8.1 with a generic key and activate with my OEM 8.0 key if I wanted. I don't bother as I would end up upgrading to 8.1 Pro anyway so I just skip the upgrade and install Pro with my TechNet key. Then I add Media Center.
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    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       18 Oct 2014 #23

    I set up a Hyper-V virtual machine on Win8 for a Win10 install.

    It's fairly easy and Kari documented it well here:
    Hyper-V virtualization - Setup and Use in Windows 10

    PC World has a fair article, it references another VM package (Oracle's Virtual Box (VB)).
    How to install the Windows 10 Technical Preview: Everything you need to know

    Some members reported difficulties with VB, so you might consider VMware player or MS Hyper-V.
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  4.    19 Oct 2014 #24

    Slartybart said: View Post
    I set up a Hyper-V virtual machine on Win8 for a Win10 install.

    It's fairly easy and Kari documented it well here:
    Hyper-V virtualization - Setup and Use in Windows 10

    PC World has a fair article, it references another VM package (Oracle's Virtual Box (VB)).
    How to install the Windows 10 Technical Preview: Everything you need to know

    Some members reported difficulties with VB, so you might consider VMware player or MS Hyper-V.
    Hi there

    I think there's a bit of confusion here -- the W10 preview doesn't require a key - now if you restore your Windows OEM system you might well require a key for restore if it uses the Protected boot system and you haven't re-enabled it after restoring..

    What I would do on any of these OEM Systems is to BACKUP both your RUNNING system and the OEM RECOVERY PARTITION with something like acronis BEFORE you start any W10 upgrade and DISABLE protected boot. (That doesn't mean disabling UEFI though). Now simply enable legacy boot and you are good to go. !!

    To restore - either restore the OEM recovery partition, and THEN restore using that to get back to "Factory state" or restore your OS. Re-enable protected boot if you had it on to start with.

    Testing in a VM is the easiest way to start - but I agree sometimes people do need to test on REAL hardware too.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Windows 7, 8.1, 10 | Linux
       19 Oct 2014 #25

    Windows 10 Tech Preview Tips


    jessejamestw23 said: View Post
    I have Windows 7 Home Premium x64 on my Laptop, and 8.1 x64 on our desktop. Any tips on what I should do? I don't have a USB drive or a backup CD. Should I not install it?
    Hello jessejamestw23,

    There is no problem if you don't have a USB drive or backup CD. You can simply install Windows 10 on Virtual Machine a.k.a VM. Want to know more ? Good.

    Virtual machine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Windows 10 on VM [Installation Tutorial]
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  6.    19 Oct 2014 #26

    prod key W7


    id plump for the laptop with W7 on it. youve got your prod key for that on the sticker.
    you can download an official copy of W7 from digitalriver without the bloat, and use your W7 prod key to validate it if you decide to revert back if you dont like 10.

    remember to backup YOUR DATA first.

    Id also do a clean install.

    Roy
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  7. Posts : 2
    Windows 8.1 64-bit
       20 Oct 2014 #27

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    That first link will not accept OEM keys by the way. So it won't work for anybody with a factory OEM install, even if they know their product code. Don't get me wrong, those links may help someone out, I just want to save someone the hassle of figuring out what their product code is only to find out it doesn't work for that download.
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    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       20 Oct 2014 #28

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    That first link will not accept OEM keys by the way. So it won't work for anybody with a factory OEM install, even if they know their product code. Don't get me wrong, those links may help someone out, I just want to save someone the hassle of figuring out what their product code is only to find out it doesn't work for that download.
    Doesn't the note box explain the issue and provide a workaround.
    Or am I reading that box incorrectly?

    EightForums Win8 Clean install said:
    3. Run the Windows8-Setup.exe file (step 1), enter your RETAIL Windows 8 product key, and click/tap on Next. (see screenshot below)

    Note   Note
    This will not work if you use an OEM or system builders product key.

    If you enter a generic key, then you will get a We can't connect right now message since they have been blocked.

    If you still have the hidden folders below on your computer from the Windows 8/8.1 Upgrade Assistant, then you will see step 7 in OPTION TWO below instead.

    You can delete these two hidden folders below to be able to enter your product key and download a new ISO file.

    %UserProfile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WebSetup

    AND

    C:\ESD\Windows
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  9.    20 Oct 2014 #29

    I personally am waiting until the beta comes out before replacing 8.1.
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