Windows 10 unable to boot in random moments

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  1. Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro N
       #1

    Windows 10 unable to boot in random moments


    Hello good people, back in 2020 I assembled my socket am4 pc.
    Since then (and I changed all the pc components but still using the socket am4 machine) I had random boot failures.
    I thought it was because when I installed the os I wanted my raid 1 configuration (other than the nvme ssd) to be visible during the installation (which is not if I do not install any amd supplemental drivers).

    Some days ago I received a new nvme ssd, I installed it and switched the older one to the slower m2 slot.
    Installed windows 10 ltsc and then I was doing back and fort to move the stuff from the old nvme to the new one, when suddenly the old ssd didn't want to boot anymore, despite it was working fine a minute before, when this doesn't work and I am able to boot into RE environment the only visible drive is the raid1 (despite the winre is in the ssd).

    The current version of windows 10 malfunctioning is: 22H2 build 19045.4170.

    To fix the issue i'm trying to do an inplace reinstallation which always fails due to the winre partition being unavailable (according to the setup). I followed multiple guides and even if I give the command: ReAgentC /Enable I receive a successful message, it keeps being disable when I give the command ReAgentC /info:
    Code:
    Informazioni di configurazione per Ambiente ripristino Windows
    e la reimpostazione del sistema:
    
        Stato Ambiente ripristino Windows:      Disabled
        Percorso Ambiente ripristino Windows:
        Identificatore dati di configurazione di avvio (BCD): 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
        Percorso immagine di ripristino:
        Indice immagine di ripristino:          0
        Percorso immagine personalizzata:
        Indice immagine personalizzata:         0
    
    REAGENTC.EXE: operazione riuscita.
    That's the situation of the first hard drive according to diskpart:
    Code:
      Volume ###  Let. Etichetta    Fs     Tipo        Dim.     Stato      Info
      ---------   ---  -----------  -----  ----------  -------  ---------  --------
      Volume 0     E                       DVD-ROM         0 b  Nessun su
      Volume 1     C   Windows 10   NTFS   Partizione   952 Gb  Integro    Sistema
      Volume 2                      FAT32  Partizione   100 Mb  Integro    Nascosto
      Volume 3         Windows RE   NTFS   Partizione  1001 Mb  Integro    Nascosto
      Volume 4     D                NTFS   Partizione  7451 Gb  Integro
      Volume 5     G   ESD-USB      FAT32  Rimovibile    29 Gb  Integro
    list par:
    Code:
    DISKPART> list par
    
      Partizione ###   Tipo              Dim.     Offset
      ---------------  ----------------  -------  -------
      Partizione 1    Sistema            100 Mb  1088 Kb
      Partizione 2    Riservato           16 Mb   102 Mb
      Partizione 3    Primario           952 Gb   118 Mb
      Partizione 4    Ripristino        1001 Mb   952 Gb
    That's a screen of disk management:
    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    When I try to do the inplace reinstall it ends with the error: 0xC1900101 – 0x20017, Installation failed in SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation.

    I'm sorry but i'm unsure of what logs so I used the Upgrade_failure_info.bat.
    The compressed file is over 60mb! I shared it on my google drive: Upgrade_failure_logs_2024-03-30_19-02-27.zip - Google Drive

    Thank you in advance for any help.
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  2. Posts : 14,022
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #2

    There can be issues with booting to a RAID configuration, I did it several years ago. My motherboard BIOS had a setting for AHCI/RAID [yes, combined] or Legacy. I chose AHCI/RAID and installed good. I did not pay attention to having a second HDD connected to the board and Windows automatically installed as RAID 1. Later on I removed the second drive and broke the process, required reinstall Windows. Late last year I was given a Dell Precision XEON CPU with 2 x 500GB drives, one was bad, removed the bad one and same thing, had to change to AHCI with only one drive connected and install Win10, it is now my main Win10 machine.
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  3. Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro N
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Berton said:
    There can be issues with booting to a RAID configuration, I did it several years ago. My motherboard BIOS had a setting for AHCI/RAID [yes, combined] or Legacy. I chose AHCI/RAID and installed good. I did not pay attention to having a second HDD connected to the board and Windows automatically installed as RAID 1. Later on I removed the second drive and broke the process, required reinstall Windows. Late last year I was given a Dell Precision XEON CPU with 2 x 500GB drives, one was bad, removed the bad one and same thing, had to change to AHCI with only one drive connected and install Win10, it is now my main Win10 machine.
    Thank you for the asnwer.
    Do you mean that the raid settings can give issue on boot phase? Because I'm pretty sure I can't have the mixed setting raid\ahci.
    That being said I'm not booting to RAID 1, which I just use as a storage.
    I can say that in the new installation the raid wasn't visible until I installed the chipset driver. I can say for sure that intel raid wasn't so problematic (the raid is also not visible on linux, I tried gparted).
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  4. Posts : 14,022
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #4

    In my case the AHCI/RAID was provided automatically to Windows with 2 drives installed. Once Windows is installed it doesn't boot to RAID but RAID has files on both drives, removing one drive breaks the boot process and fails.
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  5. Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro N
    Thread Starter
       #5

    I'm not sure this is the issue, last year I upgraded the raid 1 (so deleting the old, create a new one with new hard drives) and I was able to do it without issues...
    I believe my windows is messed up as per the logs I posted.
    I noticed that those drivers are different from the old installation to the new one:
    amdkmpfd.inf_amd64_d98dbc5b32c9a7aa
    amdpcibridgeextension.inf_amd64_2b0b2bac86a4cd1d

    Which so far I tried to update with pnputil.

    Also, do you know how can I remove double entries in uefi? They are going to multiply themselves, they were just 2 a since 2 days ago:

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    I don't think those are source of the problem but still they are annoying.
    Last edited by Nemo1985; 4 Weeks Ago at 00:26.
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  6. Posts : 23,331
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #6

    Nemo1985 said:
    I'm not sure this is the issue, last year I upgraded the raid 1 (so deleting the old, create a new one with new hard drives) and I was able to do it without issues...
    I believe my windows is messed up as per the logs I posted.
    I noticed that those drivers are different from the old installation to the new one:
    amdkmpfd.inf_amd64_d98dbc5b32c9a7aa
    amdpcibridgeextension.inf_amd64_2b0b2bac86a4cd1d

    Which so far I tried to update with pnputil.




    If it was me, I'd... remove the Recovery partition. Don't use RAID at all. Start using backup software.
    I use Macrium Reflect, but any of these are fine...

    Macrium Reflect, AOMEI Backupper and Hasleo Backup Suite - GUIDES | Windows 11 Forum



    Do a clean install of Windows. You can use Karen's Replicator instead of RAID 1.
    That's pretty much what I've done... also.
    I have Karen's set to copy anything I do on Disk 1... to Disk 2.

    Karen's Replicator the Backup Utility for Windows v3.7.6 Released May 25, 2020 | Karen's Power Tools | Karen's Software


    Windows 10 unable to boot in random moments-000000-disk-management-2.png





    RAID is not really necessary on a home computer.
    The hardware is fast enough and there are "other" ways to mirror a drive.
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  7. Posts : 726
    WIN 10 19045.4291
       #7

    I have absolutely no idea what your intention is, what you did and your problem description is horrible.
    On Home Computers the Raid possibilities are very limited. Professional Workstations have a separate RAID Controller with the option to configure the arrays.
    Now you are on the best way to ruin your NVRAM. bcdedit /enum firmware allows you to delete dublicate entries.
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  8. Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro N
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Pentagon said:
    I have absolutely no idea what your intention is, what you did and your problem description is horrible.
    On Home Computers the Raid possibilities are very limited. Professional Workstations have a separate RAID Controller with the option to configure the arrays.
    Now you are on the best way to ruin your NVRAM. bcdedit /enum firmware allows you to delete dublicate entries.
    The information about raid were given because I thought the forced driver installation was the "main issue". I won't delete my raid1 and use third applications, as much as people can think is better... That being said, I've been able to rebuild bcd with bcdedit, now I'm down to two boot devices (which still doesn't make any sense to me?).
    That's the output of bcdedit /enum firmware:

    Code:
    Boot Manager per firmware
    ---------------------
    identificatore          {fwbootmgr}
    displayorder            {4a713f9e-ef2f-11ee-b80c-833d98dc321f}
                            {bootmgr}
    timeout                 1
    
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identificatore          {bootmgr}
    device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    path                    \EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI
    description             Windows Boot Manager
    locale                  it-IT
    default                 {default}
    displayorder            {default}
    timeout                 30
    
    Applicazione firmware (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identificatore          {4a713f9e-ef2f-11ee-b80c-833d98dc321f}
    device                  partition=C:
    path                    \EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI
    description             Windows Boot Manager
    Then, according to my first post, I'd like to sanitize the windows installation, being able to boot both m2 drives (old installation or new installation, different ssds), while now the old installation refuse to boot when the other ssd is installed , I pasted a link of log files of the failed inplace reinstall on my first post, other than reagentc unable to properly enable despite command output gives success.

    That's the actual log of the volumes on the current installation:
    Code:
    DISKPART> sel disk 0
    
    Il disco attualmente selezionato è il disco 0.
    
    
    DISKPART> list vol
    
      Volume ###  Let. Etichetta    Fs     Tipo        Dim.     Stato      Info
      ---------   ---  -----------  -----  ----------  -------  ---------  --------
      Volume 0     E                       DVD-ROM         0 b  Nessun su
      Volume 1     C   Windows 10   NTFS   Partizione   952 Gb  Integro    Sistema
      Volume 2         EFI          FAT32  Partizione   100 Mb  Integro    Nascosto
      Volume 3         Windows RE   NTFS   Partizione  1001 Mb  Integro    Nascosto
      Volume 4     D                NTFS   Partizione  7451 Gb  Integro
    Apparently windows still use c: instead of the efi partition in boot manager.
    Thanks.
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  9. Posts : 726
    WIN 10 19045.4291
       #9

    bcdedit /delete {4a713f9e-ef2f-11ee-b80c-833d98dc321f} /cleanup

    reboot
    bcdboot X:\Windows
    replace X by the right letter after reboot
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  10. Posts : 40
    Windows 10 Pro N
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Pentagon said:
    bcdedit /delete {4a713f9e-ef2f-11ee-b80c-833d98dc321f} /cleanup

    reboot
    bcdboot X:\Windows
    replace X by the right letter after reboot
    Done, here is the output of bcdedit /enum firmware:
    Code:
    C:\windows\system32>bcdedit /enum firmware
    
    Boot Manager per firmware
    ---------------------
    identificatore          {fwbootmgr}
    displayorder            {bootmgr}
                            {43b11d56-ef2c-11ee-ab49-806e6f6e6963}
    timeout                 1
    
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identificatore          {bootmgr}
    device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    path                    \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
    description             Windows Boot Manager
    locale                  en-us
    inherit                 {globalsettings}
    default                 {default}
    resumeobject            {4a713fa3-ef2f-11ee-b80c-833d98dc321f}
    displayorder            {default}
    toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
    timeout                 30
    
    Applicazione firmware (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identificatore          {43b11d56-ef2c-11ee-ab49-806e6f6e6963}
    device                  partition=C:
    path                    \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
    description             Windows Boot Manager
    
    C:\windows\system32>
    Still 2 voices are visible:
    Imgur: The magic of the Internet
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