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  1.    02 Sep 2015 #1
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    Still confused about downloading and installing win 10


    Hello all,

    My first call, probably just me but I am still not clear on how to go about my upgrades to win 10.
    I have 2 desktops and 1 Laptop.
    My main comp is a fairly new machine Windows 8.1Pro with OS on 250 GB SSD 64 bit
    second desktop: Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
    Laptop Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit

    All 3 machines I will update to win 10 but I would like to have a DVD for 32 bit and 64 bit.
    My win 8.1 64 bit I thought I would upgrade using the Media Tool Creater to download and install win 10.
    I believe that I can only download once how do I get the DVD with 32 bit on a DVD.
    Can anyone tell me how I should procied, I have the win 10 icon on both laptop and desktop.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated
    wills
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  2.    02 Sep 2015 #2
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Hi , you can use Media Tool Creater for all pc, when you start, you will be prompted , what you want too download 32 / 64 bit , or both , just pick and go ahead ..
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  3.    02 Sep 2015 #3
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    Thank you Fauert,
    Sorry I am a bit thick here, I need some step by step instructions. If I use the Media Tool creator for my 64 bit comp do I select update for this computer or for another computer. Using update this computer how will I be able to make a DVD, and likewise the Laptop.
    Many thanks
    wills
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  4.    02 Sep 2015 #4
    Join Date : May 2015
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    Win 10 X64 Pro 15063

    As far as I know, there are no limits on the number of downloads you can make with the Media Creation Tool.

    For my own machines, I downloaded the ISOs for Win 10 X64 Pro (for my desktops) and Home (for my laptop). The desktops didn't need a DVD because they had Windows 8.1. 8.1 allows an ISO to be mounted as a virtual DVD, and I could run the upgrade from that. The laptop ran Windows 7 X64 Home. Rather than install a utility to mount an ISO, I made a USB flash drive from the ISO and upgraded that way. (A lot of people use a utility like Rufus to make a bootable USB flash drive, but I used Diskpart. Easy enough, but with a small risk of erasing one of the hard drives if you aren't careful.)

    I prefer USB flash drives to DVDs because the installation is much quicker that way. DVDs are more permanent, I suppose.

    I suggest looking through the tutorials here. Here's one example:

    Windows 10 - Upgrade Installation - Windows 10 Forums
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  5.    02 Sep 2015 #5
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by wills View Post
    Thank you Fauert,
    Sorry I am a bit thick here, I need some step by step instructions. If I use the Media Tool creator for my 64 bit comp do I select update for this computer or for another computer. Using update this computer how will I be able to make a DVD, and likewise the Laptop.
    Many thanks
    wills
    If you want 1 DVD for both 32bit and 64bit Windows 10 it will have to be a double layer DVD because the files are too big to fit on a standard DVD. If you only have standard, single layer DVDs, then you will have to make 1 each.

    First, you download the Windows Media Creation Tool (MCT) for the bit level of the OS you are going to be running it on. That has nothing to do with the bit level of Windows 10 you will download. When you run it, you will select whatever says make it for another PC, can't remember the exact words. Then you will select the language you want, Windows 10 Pro (assuming you don't have the "N" version), and if you want 1 double layer DVD then select both 32 and 64bit. Then you will burn the ISO to the DVD - not just copy it - you actually have to burn the image that is in the ISO. I think the MCT has an option for that after the ISO is downloaded.

    If you want two single layer DVDs you will have to run the MCT twice. First get the 32bit Windows 10, and then get the 64bit Windows 10.

    Now that you have DVD(s) made, to do the upgrade you will insert the DVD with the current operating system running - just like if you were going to watch a movie. Then you run setup.exe from the DVD. If at any time during the upgrade you are asked to enter a product key, stop and cancel the upgrade because something is wrong - you are probably trying to upgrade to the wrong version of Windows 10.

    After you get a successful upgrade that is permanently activated, if you want to do a clean install of Windows 10, then you would boot from the DVD - not just run setup from it - and then you will be asked for a product key and that is when you click the tiny text to "skip" or "do it later" and do NOT enter a product key! Unless you purchase a retail or OEM Windows 10 that comes with it's own product key, you should never enter a product key for Windows 10.
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  6.    02 Sep 2015 #6
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    Thanks bobkn,

    Let me see if I got that right now.
    For my Win8.1 64 bit machine if I choose: "Upgrade this PC now" using the Media Tool Creater it would update my pc without making a ISO for a DVD or would it do that as well.
    Thanks
    wills
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  7.    02 Sep 2015 #7
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    Sorry I had missed your post came in as I was replying.
    Thank you NavilLCDR
    You have answered my big concern, I think that I will have the confidence now to to ahead.
    I had been told that you can not run the MCT twice to have 2 DVD's 32 bit and 64 bit since this is what I will need.
    This is probably a dumb question, a current 32 bit OS win 7 can not be updated to a 64 bit win10, this can only be done with a clean install, is that correct.
    wills
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  8.    02 Sep 2015 #8
    Join Date : Mar 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by wills View Post
    This is probably a dumb question, a current 32 bit OS win 7 can not be updated to a 64 bit win10, this can only be done with a clean install, is that correct.
    wills
    Yes, because the license is the same, regardless of which platform you plan to use. If it is currently 32 bit, your upgrade will be the same. A clean install will let you choose, depending on which DVD you use.
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  9.    02 Sep 2015 #9
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by wills View Post
    This is probably a dumb question, a current 32 bit OS win 7 can not be updated to a 64 bit win10, this can only be done with a clean install, is that correct.
    wills

    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
    Yes, because the license is the same, regardless of which platform you plan to use. If it is currently 32 bit, your upgrade will be the same. A clean install will let you choose, depending on which DVD you use.
    To clarify - you must first upgrade 32bit Windows 7 to 32bit Windows 10. You can't do an in place upgrade from 32bit to 64bit even if the version of the OS is the same. Once you have Windows 10 32bit permanently activated on that computer, then you can wipe it out and do a clean install of Windows 10 64bit and it will activate itself because the license is the same - but to get that license to begin with it has to be an in place upgrade, which has to stay at the same bit level.
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  10.    02 Sep 2015 #10
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    guys, I thank you for being so patient with me, I will let you know how I faired.
    wills
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