Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?

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  1. Posts : 88
    Windows 10 Home
    Thread Starter
       #71

    zbook said:
    The computer had a BSOD on Sunday June 18 14 : 34 : 14.
    Please perform the following steps:
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    Strange, I never personally noticed any BSOD during usage yesterday, As in going to the blue screen. Unless it can happen in the background without going to the blue screen idk.

    1) Open administrative command prompt and copy and paste

    PowerShell $D=(New-Object -ComObject Wscript.Shell).SpecialFolders(4);Compress-Archive "%WinDir%\MEMORY.DMP" "$D\Memory_dmp"

    Post a separate share link into this thread with only the compressed memory dump.

    Here is the memory dump file: Memory_dmp.zip - Google Drive

    2) Open administrative command prompt and copy and paste:

    msdt.exe -id WindowsUpdateDiagnostic

    msdt.exe -id DeviceDiagnostic

    For each Microsoft Windows troubleshooter click (if available view detailed information) > post images or share links into this thread

    I ran both but did NOT apply anything, did you want me to apply it or just check the results and post images here?

    WindowsUpdateDiagnostic:
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-windowsupdatediagnostic-results.jpg

    Device Diagnostics:
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-device-diagnostics-results.png





    3) Perform Windows updates > post images of any updates or error messages or codes into this thread using share links

    Here is the most recent updates available that i just installed. That intel driver is going to revert me back to the 2017 version again instead of the 2015 one from Lenovo's website. And I Don't see any errors on install history list.

    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-recent-updates.jpg



    Optional updates listed. Should I install ALL of these? Idk why intel's driver tool did not auto install these if they are needed? Why is AMD listed in there? I have an intel
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-optional.jpg

    4) Run HD Tune (free or trial version) (all drives)
    HD Tune website
    Post images or share links for results on these tbs:
    a) Health
    b) Benchmark
    c) Full error scan
    RESULTS HERE
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-runhdtue.jpg


    5) After posting HD Tune results into this thread download and install HD Sentinel (trial version)
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring
    Post images or share links for results on these tabs
    a) Overview
    b) Temperature
    c) SMART

    RESULTS HERE
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-hardisk-sentitnal.jpg


    6) Monitor the computer using Reliability Monitor:

    Reliability Monitor is the Best Windows Troubleshooting Tool You Aren’t Using



    7) For any new BSOD post a new V2 share link into the newest post.
    Last edited by jerry76; 19 Jun 2023 at 18:54.
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  2. Posts : 4,172
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #72

    Question: If you are in an organization where there are lots of the same computers, do you know of anyone else who has the same model computer with the same hardware?

    If so, you can export the drivers from their system and them import them to your system.

    If that is the case, let me know and I'll give you a procedure.
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  3. Posts : 88
    Windows 10 Home
    Thread Starter
       #73

    Hi, @hsehestedt

    I am not unfortunately , dont know anyone with the same laptop

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  4. Posts : 4,172
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #74

    One more question:

    Do you have any one of the following:

    1) A backup of the system from when all drivers were present.
    2) An OEM recovery partition from which you could TEMPORARILY recover the original factory installation to allow us to grab the drivers.
    3) External recovery media.
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  5. Posts : 88
    Windows 10 Home
    Thread Starter
       #75

    Hi, @Megahertz
    Megahertz said:
    PCI Simple Communications Controller (Intel chipset driver) has been installed.

    Okay. That first link though, on the lenovo site for it, it says it's compatible for a list of laptops that does not include mine:
    Lenovo System Update for Windows 11, 10 & 7 (32-bit, 64-bit) - Desktop, Notebook, Workstation - Lenovo Support US I can go ahead and try it just hope it doesn't cause any conflicting issues?





    the other driver links are saying the same thing, they seem to be for specific systems
    Lenovo ACPI Driver for Windows 10 (64-bit) - ThinkCentre M93z - Lenovo Support TW
    Supported Systems: ThinkCentre M93z



    I also download Lenovos
    system update software Lenovo System Update: Update Drivers, BIOS and Applications - Lenovo Support US
    But when running it it did not find any updates or drivers needed.
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-ht003029_1.png

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    Sorry I dont know how to separate these posts to different people, the forums keeps combing them with my previous posts even though Im making them separately.
    @hsehestedt
    hsehestedt said:
    One more question:

    Do you have any one of the following:

    1) A backup of the system from when all drivers were present.
    2) An OEM recovery partition from which you could TEMPORARILY recover the original factory installation to allow us to grab the drivers.
    3) External recovery media.

    I do not 8(. I wiped it all when installing windows 10 because it was based on windows 8.1 and did not think id need that anymore.

    But I had done a factory reset prior with the Lenovo's OEM recovery partition, (One Key Recovery), it went back to 2014 on everything and with the original windows 8.1, updated windows, and it did not solve my boot issues or black screen issues, or whatever it actually is
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  6. Posts : 41,972
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #76

    1) Please make free or pay backup images and save the images to another disk drive or the cloud.

    (Acronis, Aoemi, EaseUS, Macrium, Paragon, etc.

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect


    2) Read this tutorial on Windows Driver Verifier (WDV):

    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10.

    Learn the methods to recover from using the tool by booting into safe mode and running one or more of these commands:

    verifier /reset

    verifier /bootmode resetonbootfail


    3) Make a new restore point.


    4) Start WDV with these settings:
    a) test all non-Microsoft drivers
    b) test no Microsoft drivers
    c) start the testing with the three customized tests in the TF link


    5) If there is no immediate BSOD then open administrative command prompt and copy and paste:

    verifier /querysettings

    Post a share link into this thread using one drive, drop box, or google drive.


    6) For any BSOD post a new V2 share link into the newest post.


    7) Do not install the Windows update drivers at this time.

    Pending the outcome of the WDV testing plan to install drivers at a later time.
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  7. Posts : 88
    Windows 10 Home
    Thread Starter
       #77

    zbook said:
    1) Please make free or pay backup images and save the images to another disk drive or the cloud.

    (Acronis, Aoemi, EaseUS, Macrium, Paragon, etc.

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect


    2) Read this tutorial on Windows Driver Verifier (WDV):

    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10.

    Learn the methods to recover from using the tool by booting into safe mode and running one or more of these commands:

    verifier /reset

    verifier /bootmode resetonbootfail


    3) Make a new restore point.


    4) Start WDV with these settings:
    a) test all non-Microsoft drivers
    b) test no Microsoft drivers
    c) start the testing with the three customized tests in the TF link



    5) If there is no immediate BSOD then open administrative command prompt and copy and paste:

    verifier /querysettings

    Post a share link into this thread using one drive, drop box, or google drive.


    6) For any BSOD post a new V2 share link into the newest post.


    7) Do not install the Windows update drivers at this time.

    Pending the outcome of the WDV testing plan to install drivers at a later time.
    1) Are you referring to these three tests?
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-change-standard-settings.jpg


    2) Also, for no Microsoft drivers, is that a setting that I select, or do you just mean manually uncheck anything that is a Microsoft driver in this list below?
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-select-drivers.jpg


    3) it says it puts a lot of stress on the drivers, does that mean the CPU also? Can it risk damaging the computer?

    4) were my HD tune and hard disk Sentinel results for both okay looking?

    thanks!
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  8. Posts : 41,972
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #78

    1) Yes
    2) Yes > scroll down to check all of the non-Microsoft drivers
    3) BSOD occur to protect the hardware
    If there are performance problems including very slow boot comment into this thread.
    (Settings can be modified)
    4) HD Tune had a false positive CRC that was not seen using HD Sentinel

    BSOD after clean install are often due to malfunctioning hardware.

    The computer may be having problems with the Intel GPU drivers / hardware.

    Plan to run WDV with various customized test settings for 24 to 48 hours.
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  9. Posts : 88
    Windows 10 Home
    Thread Starter
       #79

    zbook said:
    1) Yes
    2) Yes > scroll down to check all of the non-Microsoft drivers
    3) BSOD occur to protect the hardware
    If there are performance problems including very slow boot comment into this thread.
    (Settings can be modified)
    4) HD Tune had a false positive CRC that was not seen using HD Sentinel

    BSOD after clean install are often due to malfunctioning hardware.

    The computer may be having problems with the Intel GPU drivers / hardware.

    Plan to run WDV with various customized test settings for 24 to 48 hours.
    Oh okay, got it.

    So if there's no immediate blue screen of death, I should immediately run that command: verifier /querysetting ?
    But even after that, keep WDV running for 24-48 hours?

    I normally turn the laptop off, so keep it plugged in and idle for 24-48hrs,?

    (
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  10. Posts : 41,972
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #80

    Yes, run querysettings if there is no immediate BSOD.

    The customized test settings will be modified if there is no BSOD.

    The 24 to 48 hours are for different customized test settings.

    There are a limited number of non-Microsoft drivers installed now making the WDV testing easier.

    If there is a stable Intel GPU driver during WDV testing then plan to install all of the other drivers.
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