Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?

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  1. Posts : 88
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       #41

    Megahertz said:
    Did you reboot to see if it is booting normally?

    I noticed that the USB drive is GPT and it should be Fat32 to be boot able as EFI or MBR but it can be used to do a repair install (run setup.exe on the USB drive)

    I suggest you generate a GenuineTicket.xml under Win 8 to activate the Win 10 after the clean install.
    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First
    I suggest you build the USB Win 10 22h2 installation drive using MCT
    1) How do you see its GPT from that screenshot?

    But yes, I think it's supposed to be I followed Brinks tutorial using Rufus, and chose GPT and fat32 options.

    2) I just tried rebooting and it did boot windows. But it may not again sometimes I can get it to boot twice in a row and then back to black screen.

    3) Now that Im im windows (as of typing this) with the repair install .exe, are you suggesting I try that first?, can you do it from within Windows being boot up, just plug in the USB and run that or do I need to boot from the USB only?
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #42

    With the Lenovo diagnostic results it's no longer necessary to run Sea Tools bootable.

    Dell and HP have bootable hardware diagnostics.
    HP has both flash drive and BIOS UEFI hardware diagnostics.

    There are hardware tests that can only run bootable.
    See if you can find Lenovo bootable or UEFI hardware diagnostics.
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       #43

    jerry76 said:
    1) How do you see its GPT from that screenshot?
    The * in the GPT column.
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  4. Posts : 88
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       #44

    zbook said:
    With the Lenovo diagnostic results it's no longer necessary to run Sea Tools bootable.

    Dell and HP have bootable hardware diagnostics.
    HP has both flash drive and BIOS UEFI hardware diagnostics.

    There are hardware tests that can only run bootable.
    See if you can find Lenovo bootable or UEFI hardware diagnostics.
    Okay cool, I found the bootable uefi diagnostic lenovo version, put it onto usb, booted, and I ran the test on the motherboard everything came back clean. There is no test specifically related to being titled UEFI but, this is what it ran;
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-20230616_174007_37.jpg


    And @Megahertz, yes I created the XML file on my desktop and backed it up so I have that covered now luckily.

    Bree said:
    The * in the GPT column.
    @Bree thanks, I don't know how I over looked that lol.

    Side question for anyone, when I ran the media creation tool for Windows 10 the tutorial from Brinks talks about making sure you have enabled TSL 1.2. I Googled around and looked at some tutorials about how to figure out that, check the registry for certain keys, but just gave up. I'm assuming it was auto-enabled already on 8.1? If I'm correct it looks like it might be a concern for people with Windows 8 and Below but not 8.1? Just want to make sure before I run the USB Windows 10 install don't mess it up
    Last edited by jerry76; 16 Jun 2023 at 20:28.
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  5. Posts : 6,661
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #45

    I suggest you generate a GenuineTicket.xml under Win 8 to activate the Win 10 after the clean install.
    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First
    I suggest you build the USB Win 10 22h2 installation drive using MCT
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  6. Posts : 88
    Windows 10 Home
    Thread Starter
       #46

    Megahertz said:
    I suggest you generate a GenuineTicket.xml under Win 8 to activate the Win 10 after the clean install.
    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First
    I suggest you build the USB Win 10 22h2 installation drive using MCT
    Yes, did both. thanks
    Although when I used the media creation tool and unchecked the recommended settings box, it stilldid not give me any option to choose the Windows 10 version it only had one option. So I don't know if it's Win 10 22h2 specifically. maybe it auto detects
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #47

    The hardware passed the Lenovo tests.

    The product key was recorded.

    Continue with the clean install tutorial without having to upgrade first.

    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First

    With the BIOS UEFI the drive will be GPT partitioned (four partitions).

    For any problems take pictures and post images or share links into this thread using one drive, drop box, or google drive.
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  8. Posts : 6,661
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       #48

    jerry76 said:
    Yes, did both. thanks
    Although when I used the media creation tool and unchecked the recommended settings box, it stilldid not give me any option to choose the Windows 10 version it only had one option. So I don't know if it's Win 10 22h2 specifically. maybe it auto detects
    MCT creates a USB Win 10 22h2 installation drive (it always create the installation drive with the last version).

    Now that you have the GenuineTicket.xml to activate the Win 10 you can do a clean install.

    Windows can be installed in two ways: Legacy-MBR or UEFI-GPT
    To install as Legacy-MBR you must boot the installation drive as Legacy
    To install as UEFI-GPT you must boot the installation drive as UEFI.

    As you have a UEFI BIOS, you should install as UEFI-GPT
    Detach any other drives from the MB.

    During POST, press F12(?) to launch the boot menu. You will see two options for the USB drive. USB UEFI (Name) and USB (Name). Select USB UEFI (Name) to install as UEFI-GPT.
    Go to install and delete ALL partitions on the main drive till you have one and only one unallocated space and then proceed.
    If you don't want to use MS account, don't enable updates or connect to the internet during installation.
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  9. Posts : 88
    Windows 10 Home
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       #49

    Megahertz said:
    MCT creates a USB Win 10 22h2 installation drive (it always create the installation drive with the last version).

    Now that you have the GenuineTicket.xml to activate the Win 10 you can do a clean install.

    Windows can be installed in two ways: Legacy-MBR or UEFI-GPT
    To install as Legacy-MBR you must boot the installation drive as Legacy
    To install as UEFI-GPT you must boot the installation drive as UEFI.

    As you have a UEFI BIOS, you should install as UEFI-GPT
    Detach any other drives from the MB.

    During POST, press F12(?) to launch the boot menu. You will see two options for the USB drive. USB UEFI (Name) and USB (Name). Select USB UEFI (Name) to install as UEFI-GPT.
    Go to install and delete ALL partitions on the main drive till you have one and only one unallocated space and then proceed.
    If you don't want to use MS account, don't enable updates or connect to the internet during installation.
    Ah okay thanks.

    So I did it this morning. I did not have 2 options for the usb drive from bootmanager as you noted, only 1. So I went with that:
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-20230617_115352_43.jpg

    Also, during setup I had an unusual amount of partitions to delete, 7, I'm wondering if this is normal or could have been the cause of my boot issues before? Screenshot:
    Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?-imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-nlaflmti79_29.jpg

    Also, although I did backup the genuine XML thing and the product key, I did not end up needing either or. I was never prompted for the key and I never had to copy in the old XML file into W10. From what I read online , if you have OEM windows, the key is automatically detected and activated from the UEFI chip and you don't have to do anything.
    20230617_122116.jpg

    Other than that, so far it seems to be working. But I'm not convinced yet given the prior problems that went on for several weeks even after a factory reset! So I'll find out over the next few days if it continues to boot normally or not. Fingers crossed!
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  10. Posts : 6,661
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #50

    jerry76 said:
    Ah okay thanks.

    So I did it this morning. I did not have 2 options for the usb drive from bootmanager as you noted, only 1. So I went with that:

    Reason
    Or the Installation drive wasn't Legacy boot able or the BIOS is configured to boo only as UEFI

    Also, during setup I had an unusual amount of partitions to delete, 7, I'm wondering if this is normal or could have been the cause of my boot issues before?

    Reason
    A OEM drive can have many partitions other than the OS. That is normal

    Also, although I did backup the genuine XML thing and the product key, I did not end up needing either or. I was never prompted for the key and I never had to copy in the old XML file into W10. From what I read online , if you have OEM windows, the key is automatically detected and activated from the UEFI chip and you don't have to do anything.


    Other than that, so far it seems to be working. But I'm not convinced yet given the prior problems that went on for several weeks even after a factory reset! So I'll find out over the next few days if it continues to boot normally or not. Fingers crossed!
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