Will Windows 10 Installs from ISO USB still accept Windows 8 Keys?

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    Megahertz said:
    Jerry, your Lenovo came with Win 8.x so you won't find any win 10 drivers listed for your model but I'm quite sure they will be accepted as they are for the same hardware components of other Lenovo models. To try won't hurt. It can only say it isn't for your computer or install but isn't used. Give them a try.

    All those Intel drivers must be installed as you run the Intel driver updater. BTW, you can uninstall Intel(R) Driver & Support Assistant now as there won't be a new driver for your old Laptop and it has a tracking feature and loads when Windows start.
    Not just 10 vs 8.1, I mean that those drivers you linked me are not listed as compatible for my device itself, not just operating system. It says its for like a thinkpad c300 for example. But okay I can give it a try after I try downloading the ones currently listed in optional updates first I assume? See if that solves the missing drivers issues first?
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    I did startup repair, and was able to get back into windows. The startup repair uninstalled the last two updates which was these below.
    I would not assume that was necessarily what was causing the issue, because even after they were uninstalled, I restarted to begin the WDV verifier, and it went back to a black screen again and the startup repair did not work a second time. So who knows



    @zbook
    I did make a backup with macrium. I then setup the WDV per ur instructions, it required a reboot, and then black screen.



    I went into recovery mode CMD and disabled wdv, are these the results? idk I would not assume it even actually ran the test because I never restarted and got back into windows first, so I don't know



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    The laptop is worse off now. Im getting BSOD for the first time. Tried system restore to 3 days ago, no change.


    I'm not sure how good the macrium backup does since I can't get into Windows to restore it.

    I think the next option is try the reset this PC feature?

    Also found this interesting, this is an ongoing Thread about people with my exact laptop and the issues with drivers. There's a very specific set and versions you seem to have to install and go into regedit to disable certain things from updating: English Community-Lenovo Community

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       #92

    Select either a Macrium restore or a clean install Windows 8.1.

    Whenever possible post a new V2 share link.

    If Windows 8.1 is clean install then run the DM log collector.


    Clean Install - Windows 8 | Windows 8 Help Forums

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows8
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       #93

    zbook said:
    Select either a Macrium restore or a clean install Windows 8.1.

    Whenever possible post a new V2 share link.

    If Windows 8.1 is clean install then run the DM log collector.


    Clean Install - Windows 8 | Windows 8 Help Forums

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows8
    I don't know of a way to select my macrium restore cuz I can't get into Windows to open up macrium.
    However My USB drive still has the clean install of Windows 10 ISO on it, if im sticking with W10

    I can erase the USB and download 8.1 ISO onto the USB to do the clean install of 8.1
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    Clean install Windows 10

    (install no applications or drivers) (use only the Windows installed drivers)

    Start WDV with these customized tests:
    a) Test only nvlddmkm.sys
    b) Test no other drivers
    c) Run the three customized tests in the TF link

    If there is no immediate BSOD then post verifier /querysettings
    If there is a BSOD then post a new V2 share link into the newest post.
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    zbook said:
    Clean install Windows 10

    (install no applications or drivers) (use only the Windows installed drivers)

    Start WDV with these customized tests:
    a) Test only nvlddmkm.sys
    b) Test no other drivers
    c) Run the three customized tests in the TF link

    If there is no immediate BSOD then post verifier /querysettings
    If there is a BSOD then post a new V2 share link into the newest post.
    I reinstalled W10, got in.
    I went up and down the list, there is no nvlddmkm.sys driver.
    .



    I then paused windows updates for 7 days b4 connecting to wifi, but as soon as i connected to a wifi network, the fans kicked up, like something else was still downloading and installing in the background. Probably non-windows updates like drivers, idk. Thats when the screen went black again and back to black screen problem.

    Did a system restore ( I created one right before connecting to Wi-Fi) Used that restore in Windows recovery, and Im back in!

    I'm going to stay disconnected from Wi-Fi this time! What I could try, is, downloading manually the drivers from a separate computer and then importing them on USB so I don't have to connect to the internet?
    idk if anything or what is truly related or not.

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    I manually added drivers without wifi. After installing Intel Management Engine Interface for Windows 10 (64-bit) - 9.5.10.1658, several of the unknown missing drivers were solved.
    Before:


    After:


    So i then proceeded to install Intel Graphics Driver for Windows 10 (64-bits), then the screen went black as it was installing, and it's back to the black screen problem, I can't get into windows.
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    Please plan to make several backup images so that you can choose the image to restore.

    Plan to have
    one Windows 8.1 with drivers
    one Windows 10 with drivers, applications, and important files (confirm that this backup image already is saved)

    Initially test Windows 8.1 with the best tested drivers displayed on the Lenovo website.
    (Use the Lenovo automatic driver update link)
    (enter the serial number for the laptop)
    laptops and netbooks :: yoga series :: yoga 2 pro lenovo Lenovo PC Support - Lenovo Support US


    Run WDV testing on only one driver (Intel GPU igdkmd64.sys) with the three customized tests displayed on the Ten Forums WDV tutorial link.
    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10

    igfx igfx c:\windows\system32\drivers\igdkmd64.sys
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       #97

    zbook said:
    Please plan to make several backup images so that you can choose the image to restore.

    Plan to have
    one Windows 8.1 with drivers
    one Windows 10 with drivers, applications, and important files (confirm that this backup image already is saved)

    Initially test Windows 8.1 with the best tested drivers displayed on the Lenovo website.
    (Use the Lenovo automatic driver update link)
    (enter the serial number for the laptop)
    laptops and netbooks :: yoga series :: yoga 2 pro lenovo Lenovo PC Support - Lenovo Support US


    Run WDV testing on only one driver (Intel GPU igdkmd64.sys) with the three customized tests displayed on the Ten Forums WDV tutorial link.
    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10

    igfx igfx c:\windows\system32\drivers\igdkmd64.sys
    Sorry very confused.
    What Should I use to make the image backup this time? These are clean installs with no particular settings working, so what am I preserving? Isnt it better to just use the clean install if needed?

    Also, you said to run WDV in windows 10, but said to initially test windows 8.1. So should I wipe my pc and go back to 8.1 first?
    With which OS do i run WDV?

    -- separately before you replied I did a system restore and removed the graphics driver and I'm back in. This time i then used the intel DPTF driver from @Megahertz and it solved the "PCIE DATA acquisition controller" while the "PCIE SIMPLE COMUNICATIONS controller" was solved with the Intel management engine interface. Heres whats left:



    So far all this has been done manually importing the drivers from a USB I still have not turned on the Wi-Fi or installed the graphics driver, what should I do from here?
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       #98

    Proceed with the manual installation of Windows 10 drivers.

    If it works then you're set.

    If it fails then test the computer with another operating system (Windows 8.1 or Ubuntu / Linux).
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    zbook said:
    Proceed with the manual installation of Windows 10 drivers.

    If it works then you're set.

    If it fails then test the computer with another operating system (Windows 8.1 or Ubuntu / Linux).
    Okay, well Ive installed manually everything now except the intel graphic display. Restarted fine for now.
    Should I just turn on Wi-Fi and see what Windows updates brings up now? And install everything it offers?

    Do you want me to still do the WDV test first right now on that one driver you noted? ....its not listed
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  10. Posts : 41,704
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       #100

    For WDV.
    Run it before connecting to the internet.
    Pick any non-Microsoft driver.
    Run the three customized tests.

    If there is no immediate BSOD then post a share link displaying verifier /querysettings results
    If there is BSOD then post a new V2 share link into the newest post.
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