Issues moving Win 10 Pro to newer laptop?

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    Issues putting Win10 Pro NVMe to newer laptop?


    Greetings!
    I am running Windows 10 Pro 21H1 on an older HP 15-f100dx laptop. It has CD/DVD drive, 1 regular USB and 2 super speed USB ports along with HDMI, and has touch screen. Internal has a 1TB SSD HD that I installed myself after cloning from regular SATA HDD (mechanical) to SSD using an external USB3 drive enclosure. Running very well.
    I used EaseUS Partition Manager to clone that drive

    I bought a Samsung 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD hard drive and fit it in a NVMe drive enclosure NVMe to USB3 and used the EaseUS Partition Manager and cloned the internal hard drive (SSD SATA) to the NVMe 1TB Samsung last night Went well and this morning I changed the desktop background on my laptop, which would effect the internal SSD HD and rebooted. During shutdown I plugged in the USB NVMe drive enclosure into one of my super speed USB3 drive ports and had set the bios to first boot from USB-Hard drive in the boot order. It went very well and booted into the NVMe drive with the desktop that showed it was from the external drive.

    So the drive is working fine THIS computer does not have any NVMe internal place to plug in a NVMe drive, so my question is as follows:

    I am looking at getting a HP 15-dy2132wm laptop like what my wife has for her personal and one for her business (2 separate laptops. I used a batch file I found from a link in this forum to make a backup of ALL the drivers of her laptop, the HP 15-dy2132wm. This batch file will also allow me to install all the drivers of that particular HD, which I have done on her personal HP (Newer) laptop when I installed a fresh copy of Windows 10 Home I downloaded via Microsoft Windows Creation tool. About a year ago.

    My question is I want to keep my Windows 10 Pro license and ALL the layout of what is on this, my personal laptop, but am concerned that the embedded activation key on a new HP 15-dy2132wm laptop will cause a hitch in the activation. I know what the key is for this computer as I have a program called ShowKeyPlus.exe that I believe I also found through TENFORUMS. So I know the key of this older HP Laptop, and I can find the key on wife's HP or any computer and that would included a new laptop.

    The laptop comes installed with Windows 10 Home in S mode as standard. Both of her laptops were in S mode and I got out of the S mode using her Microsoft account, although I have her, and this computer, as Local Administrator and not connected to Microsoft. Those new computers come with secure boot marked "ON" in the bios. This HP 15-f100dx, (mine) does not have secure boot enabled and just looked and Bitlocker is set to OFF on my HP Laptop It is also set to off on both of her newer laptops as well.

    Will there be a roadblock to just swapping out the 256 GB (installed) NVMe SSD on a new HP 15-dy2132wm laptop for the one I just cloned on a 1TB NVMe Samsung SSD hard drive?
    I realize one of the very first things I will probably have to do is run the batch program to install all the necessary drivers since "this computer" does not have those drivers installed

    Also, can I just go into the BIOS of a new HP 15-dy2132wm laptop and turn off "Secure Boot" right off without causing issues?
    Last edited by Gibbs; 01 May 2023 at 17:12.
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  2. Posts : 4,633
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    If it came with Home and you transfer a pro installation, It will tell you it is not activated.

    You might be able to transfer the pro activation for old machine to the new one using a microsoft account. Somebody will be able to advise how that is done.
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  3. Posts : 141
    XP / 10 Pro
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    SIW2 said:
    If it came with Home and you transfer a pro installation, It will tell you it is not activated.

    You might be able to transfer the pro activation for old machine to the new one using a microsoft account. Somebody will be able to advise how that is done.

    I don't have a Microsoft account and don't intend on getting one at anytime in the future.
    One can change product keys. This laptop used to have Windows 10 Home, but I used my key from Windows 8.1 Pro to activate it to Windows 10 Pro.
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    yes if you have any spare keys for win7/8.
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  5. Posts : 43,212
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Please advise whether the old installation is BIOS/MBR or UEFI/GPT.
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  6. Posts : 141
    XP / 10 Pro
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    dalchina said:
    Please advise whether the old installation is BIOS/MBR or UEFI/GPT.
    It is UEFI/GPT (older_ HP 15-f100dx laptop the one I am on now, and who's HD I have cloned to a NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive.

    I do hope I posted in the correct forum sub category.

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    When I get the new laptop, can I go into the BIOS and turn off "Secure Boot" or will that cause problems?
    Last edited by Gibbs; 30 Apr 2023 at 18:27.
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  7. Posts : 18,434
    Windows 11 Pro
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    You can turn of secure boot, but there is no reason to, unless you are wanting to boot something custom made from Linux.
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  8. Posts : 141
    XP / 10 Pro
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    NavyLCDR said:
    You can turn of secure boot, but there is no reason to, unless you are wanting to boot something custom made from Linux.
    THANK YOU @NavyLCDR On my wife's new HP 15-dy212wm laptop I turned off secure boot and then before I could boot into windows I had to supply her BitLocker key and we went to Microsoft (her MS account) to get it and I wrote it down and entered it to continue. Even when I turned "Secure Boot" back on in the BIOS it still halted at that message. So wasn't sure on a brand new HP 15-dy2132wm system if I turned it off it would let me continue to initialize the Windows 10 Home in S mode on a new laptop. Just thinking it might work around the "S" mode.

    However, I have seen a youtube video on how to go into regedit after it is set up and turn off a registry key called SkuPolicyRequired and turn it to 0 instead of the "1" it is when you get it in S mode and that takes care of the S mode issues without having to create a Microsoft account, or using your MS Account and going to store and getting out of S mode in that fashion.

    I figured I would need to first initialize it in Windows 10 S mode and then get it out of S mode to run a program called ShowKeyPlus that gives you the installed Windows 10 KEY. Once I have that I might be able to put in a cloned NVMe HD from an older computer, and if needed use that key to activate it. Unsure if that might work, but figure it would not hurt to have the installed activation key if I needed it.
    My current "old" laptop is a HP 15-f100dx laptop that was running Windows 10 Home until I changed the key to one I had for an earlier retail version of Windows 8.1 Pro and that changed it to a "Pro" version.

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    I still have not heard if there is issues putting a cloned NVMe SSD that has Windows 10 Pro, into a new HP laptop, HP 15-dy2132wm, that comes with Windows 10 Home (in S mode) ?
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  9. Posts : 4,633
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    I would take it out of s mode on the new machine first, then put in the other disk with pro on it.

    Windows 10 in S mode is implemented using a policy that enforces user mode code integrity (CI). Once the CI policy is enabled on a system, it is enabled in two places:

    Windows 10 S, enforced at boot
    UEFI firmware policy, enforced during firmware load and OS boot
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...m-10s-security
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  10. Posts : 18,434
    Windows 11 Pro
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    SIW2 said:
    I would take it out of s mode on the new machine first, then put in the other disk with pro on it.



    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...m-10s-security
    I think we have tested this before, and if you don't take it out of S mode first, when the SSD is swapped into the computer, it will boot in S Mode! So, yes, I agree, take it out of S mode first!
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