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  1. Posts : 117
    Windows 10 Pro, V 22H2 OS Build 19042.1288
       #1

    Preparing


    Hi,

    Recently when preparing to download a copy of the system recovery image (W10) from Dell for my Latitude 7490 I read the following:-

    What you need:
    Service Tag of the Dell computer on which you want to install the operating system.
    Download and install the Dell OS Recovery Tool (runs in Microsoft Windows only).
    Blank USB flash drive with at least 16 GB of free space.
    Microsoft .Net Framework 4.5.2 or higher.
    Administrator user rights and at least 16 GB of available hard drive .
    For network stability, a wired network connection is preferred as well as disabling any anti-virus software during the download.


    I would have expected that if .Net framework was required they would have included it in the recovery image. If I was to download this separately would I just put it on the usb flash drive? Surely they don't mean it should be on the existing system drive? I was changing to a new M.2 NVMe drive that was blank and in any event I was booting to the USB flash drive so the contents of the system drive was irrelevant...

    I appreciate that this question could probably be better asked in a Dell forum but I've not found them to be particularly helpful, certainly not the one I posted on...

    SO, just in case there's someone on here who's re-installed Dell recovery image...

    Incidentally I tried a recovery and it appeared to work ok but I'm still intrigued...

    John
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  2. Posts : 18,044
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit v1909 - Build 18363 Custom ISO Install
       #2

    Hello @taid,

    taid said:
    What you need:

    Microsoft .Net Framework 4.5.2 or higher.

    I would have expected that if .Net framework was required they would have included it in the recovery image.
    I do NOT use Dell, but yes, I understand what you are saying. You can always check your system first to see what versions of .NET Framework are installed, but as you say, it would be a lot better if it was actually included.

    If you want to check your system to see what versions of .NET Framework you have installed, let me know and I will post the commands for you.

    I hope this helps.
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  3. Posts : 4,779
    Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit 22H2
       #3

    Incidentally I tried a recovery and it appeared to work ok but I'm still intrigued...
    If you completed a Clone or Image to your new M.2 then all is well.
    If you have been keeping up with Windows Updates on a recent version of Windows 10, you would already have the most recent .Net Framework installed on the Windows OS you are imaging so you are all set.
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  4. Posts : 117
    Windows 10 Pro, V 22H2 OS Build 19042.1288
    Thread Starter
       #4

    .Net software required for Dell recovery image installation?


    Thanks Paul for the quick reply...

    In this case I had just fitted a blank Samsung M.2 NVMe so there was no .Net software - or anything else on it...

    (sorry I omitted to include a title in my original posting)

    John

    - - - Updated - - -

    Spunk,

    ...<If you completed a Clone or Image to your new M.2 then all is well.
    If you have been keeping up with Windows Updates on a recent version of Windows 10, you would already have the most recent .Net Framework installed on the Windows OS you are imaging so you are all set....>

    I was downloading a copy of W10 from Dell, this was the same as installed on the laptop originally. I was doing this because I'd updated the drive so I was installing onto a blank drive.

    I could of course have done the same with a copy of W10 from Microsoft, this would have been a newer version but with the Dell copy I was getting all the appropriate drivers - but having to update Windows... Swings and roundabouts.

    In the event the Dell install appeared to work ok but I was just intrigued why they specifically mentioned the .Net software...

    John
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  5. Posts : 4,779
    Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit 22H2
       #5

    You don't put the .Net Framework on your USB Flash Drive, it should be installed on the Windows 10 OS you are imaging.

    Unless you have a lot of 3rd party apps that you have installed to your Windows 10 OS that you are imaging, I would have done a Clean Install of Windows 10 using an ISO image from Microsoft and burning it to a Flash drive with the Media Creation Tool. You would get the most recent version of 10 and not have to do so many Windows Updates. Just about all drivers are provided by Windows or Windows Update, but if you need any in the Device Manager, you can easily download them from https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us?app=drivers
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  6. Posts : 9,780
    Mac OS Catalina
       #6

    Forget the Dell recovery image tool, just get a vanilla copy of Windows from microsoft.com for a mct installer.
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  7. Posts : 117
    Windows 10 Pro, V 22H2 OS Build 19042.1288
    Thread Starter
       #7

    .Net software required for Dell recovery image installation?


    Thanks to all who responded - so quickly!

    The jury is still out - well in my case anyway, as to whether to re-install with a Dell W10 image or a copy of W10 downloaded directly from Microsoft.

    The Dell image is as W10 was ~3 years old - when my latitude 7490 was produced and one advantage it has over newer versions is it's easy to bypass creating an account. Is it possible to do the same in the later versions of W10?

    Thanks again to all who are giving their time...

    John
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  8. Posts : 16,895
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #8

    John,

    I'm a Dell user and am familiar with the choices you are considering.

    By the way, that Net framework issue was a bit of red herring. From your description of it, it's required for the Dell tool to operate i.e. for the Dell tool to download the Dell image.


    taid said:
    ... whether to re-install with a Dell W10 image or a copy of W10 downloaded directly from Microsoft.
    The Dell image is always out of date and the better solution is in three parts:-
    1 Download all the latest copies of Dell utilities [and drivers, Bios***] from Dell Drivers & downloads - Dell
    2 Backup your existing installed drivers. Backup and Restore Device Drivers - TenForumsTutorials
    3 Download the latest Windows ISO file. It can be used for repairs and can be used to make an InstallUSB for clean installs.
    Download Windows 10 ISO File -TenForumsTutorials
    Create Bootable Installation USB - TenForumsTutorials
    I assume you make regular system images anyway in which case these three steps will make those things available for you to use but you probably never will.

    *** When you download a new Bios version, always download its Bios recovery equivalent as well not just the new Bios itself.
    What is BIOS and How to Check and Update the System Setup or BIOS on Your Dell System - Dell UK
    How to Recover the BIOS - Dell


    taid said:
    ... one advantage it has over newer versions is it's easy to bypass creating an account. Is it possible to do the same in the later versions of W10?
    It's still easy to bypass creating an MSAccount-linked user account and to create a Local user account instead.
    See Clean Install - TenForumsTutorials


    All the best,
    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 27 Mar 2023 at 15:09.
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  9. Posts : 1,056
    windows 10
       #9

    The .net framework is one of the conditions for creating the image on the usb support.
    Look at the version of windows 10 you have installed with the dell image to find out if it is old or new. It's in settings > system.
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  10. Posts : 117
    Windows 10 Pro, V 22H2 OS Build 19042.1288
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Thanks again for all your inputs. Not being a computer whiz kid I sometimes have to go away and sit in a dark corner and think, hence my slow reply...

    Denis - I followed your mail and agree that on balance installing W10 direct from MS seemed the way to go. SO, yesterday evening I did a clean install and all appeared to go well.

    Everything seems to be ok but i have a problem as when the computer recovers from sleep there's what appears to be a screen saver which disappears when i click on it leaving me a log in screen. I never set a password, just leave the box empty so clicking on it brings up the desktop. This is a pain and I've looked everywhere but can't find a way to disable it. I saw Brink mentioned somewhere that that a local account which is what i have 'must' have a password. I've installed W10 a few times over the years and always left the password box empty and never had this problem before.

    I'll start a new thread on TenForums later on this evening or tomorrow,

    Thanks again for all your help.
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