Windows 10: Upgrading a Cloned Windows 8.1 SSD Solved

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  1.    30 Aug 2015 #1

    Upgrading a Cloned Windows 8.1 SSD


    I cloned my original HDD to SSD and saved the original for a backup. To keep it relatively up to date I re-installed it and installed the windows 10 upgrade from the "Get Windows 10" taskbar icon. I've reverted back to my SSD with Windows 8.1 in hopes of upgrading it as well rather than re-cloning it to Windows 10. The "Get Windows 10" icon is in the taskbar but seems to fail to update a few times a day at least. Should I be using the media creation tool to update my SSD or will MS update it even though I used the "Get Windows 10" icon within the original HDD already?

    Anyone with Information on this topic please add your input.
    Thank you in advance,
    trembuzz
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  2. Posts : 1,042
    Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
       30 Aug 2015 #2

    The cloning could have something to do with the failures, you can wait it out or try the usb method, if it asks for a key during the upgrade, I`ve read to pop out the usb and reboot the PC and the upgrade should continue.

    Personally, I would do a clean install of 8.1 on the ssd, activate, then upgrade to Windows 10.
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  3. Posts : 3,234
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint
       30 Aug 2015 #3

    trembuzz said: View Post
    I cloned my original HDD to SSD and saved the original for a backup. To keep it relatively up to date I re-installed it and installed the windows 10 upgrade from the "Get Windows 10" taskbar icon. I've reverted back to my SSD with Windows 8.1 in hopes of upgrading it as well rather than re-cloning it to Windows 10. The "Get Windows 10" icon is in the taskbar but seems to fail to update a few times a day at least. Should I be using the media creation tool to update my SSD or will MS update it even though I used the "Get Windows 10" icon within the original HDD already?

    Anyone with Information on this topic please add your input.
    Thank you in advance,
    trembuzz
    I've not seen a similar problem but in lieu of a better solution I'd wonder if it's failing since Win10 has already been activated on that computer and sees a second installation as different. The Upgrade tends to use the Product Key from Win8.1 and as with an install from disc can only use it once. To use a common acronym: IMHO.

    If it were mine I'd probably try cloning Win10 onto the original drive but then you'd not have Win8.1 on it.
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  4.    30 Aug 2015 #4

    AddRAM said: View Post
    The cloning could have something to do with the failures, you can wait it out or try the usb method, if it asks for a key during the upgrade, I`ve read to pop out the usb and reboot the PC and the upgrade should continue.

    Personally, I would do a clean install of 8.1 on the ssd, activate, then upgrade to Windows 10.
    Are you thinking a factory reset on the cloned SSD? It's an OEM licence.
    I suppose I could wait it out for a while as we have a year roughly to get the free upgrade.
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  5. Posts : 367
    Windows 10 Home x64
       30 Aug 2015 #5

    Appears that you've used your free upgrade to W10 by putting it on your HDD. Other than the SSD, all the original components in your computer are associated with the W10 upgrade on your HDD. As far as the W10 upgrade your computer has been upgraded already.

    You could reinstall the HDD and go back to the previous OS, then do the upgrade on your SSD, or do as you did originally and clone the W10 HDD to your SSD.

    IMO the SSD should have been the upgrade and then that upgrade cloned/backed up/imaged to the HDD. Then you could have done the clean install if desired.
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  6.    30 Aug 2015 #6

    CmmTch said: View Post
    Appears that you've used your free upgrade to W10 by putting it on your HDD. Other than the SSD, all the original components in your computer are associated with the W10 upgrade on your HDD. As far as the W10 upgrade your computer has been upgraded already.

    You could reinstall the HDD and go back to the previous OS, then do the upgrade on your SSD, or do as you did originally and clone the W10 HDD to your SSD.

    IMO the SSD should have been the upgrade and then that upgrade cloned/backed up/imaged to the HDD. Then you could have done the clean install if desired.
    Yeah, I hear you but was a bit impatient waiting for the upgrade. I'll wait a while as I've read somewhere that you can still do a clean install of 10 on an updated PC. Do you know anything about that?
    Thanks,
    trembuzz
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  7. Posts : 367
    Windows 10 Home x64
       30 Aug 2015 #7

    Clean install tutorial link


    Check this tutorial https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1...n-install.html

    Brink's done a fine job with those and a lot of solutions can be found there.

    If I read the tutorial right you will be able to clean install on your SSD in the same computer you upgraded on, then as backup you could clone that to the HDD.

    Good Luck
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  8.    30 Aug 2015 #8

    Updated original HDD from W8.1 What about My Cloned SSD?


    I have my original HDD updated to W10 but just want to keep it for backup and will be updating every so often. My SSD cloned from the original HDD still has W8.1 with the "Get Windows 10" icon in place as it was on my HDD. Checking in the review updates I see that W10 update has failed numerous times.

    Will the free upgrade still apply to this SSD or will I have to re-clone to W10 from the HDD? Or use media creation tool to upgrade perhaps?

    Thanks in advance,
    trembuzz
    Last edited by Brink; 30 Aug 2015 at 17:44. Reason: moved to original thread
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  9.    30 Aug 2015 #9

    You should be able to do a clean install of 10 on the SSD (assuming it os on the same machine). You don't need to install 8.1 and upgrade.

    You will have to clean install the same version (Home or Pro) though as you upgraded on the HDD.

    Edit, sorry I just noticed @CmmTch said the same thing...

    You can do that, or upgrade using the media creation tool or iso, or image your HDD back to SSD - whichever way it will be activated (assuming your Windows 10 is activated now)
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  10. Posts : 367
    Windows 10 Home x64
       30 Aug 2015 #10

    trembuzz said: View Post
    I have my original HDD updated to W10 but just want to keep it for backup and will be updating every so often. My SSD cloned from the original HDD still has W8.1 with the "Get Windows 10" icon in place as it was on my HDD. Checking in the review updates I see that W10 update has failed numerous times.

    Will the free upgrade still apply to this SSD or will I have to re-clone to W10 from the HDD? Or use media creation tool to upgrade perhaps?

    Thanks in advance,
    trembuzz
    Please see post #7 go to the tutorial, follow directions and clean install on your SSD
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