Unable to keep all programs and files using repair install method.

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  1. Posts : 35
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Verson 1909 build 18363.418
    Thread Starter
       #11

    Dalchina... Thank you for your reply. I know that my hard drive is good. It is a new Samsung EVO 870 SSD, so no issues there. I am attaching the screen shots of my file system chkdsk c: /scan and my system files sfc /scannow results.
    Unable to keep all programs and files using repair install method.-results-chkdsk-c.png
    Unable to keep all programs and files using repair install method.-results-sfc-scannow.png

    I downloaded a new ISO file from TechBench WZT as Denis (Try3) pointed out. It is named the same as the current version (1909 build 18363.418). I attempted to use the in-place upgrade installation you pointed to in your reply again and I have attached screen shots of the failed attempt. I saved the ISO to my desktop and ran it from there.

    Unable to keep all programs and files using repair install method.-place-install-1.png

    Unable to keep all programs and files using repair install method.-place-install-2.png

    Unable to keep all programs and files using repair install method.-place-install-3.png

    Unable to keep all programs and files using repair install method.-place-install-4.png

    I hope these images are the ones you were requesting.

    C.
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  2. Posts : 16,781
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #12

    nitram said:
    ... my system files sfc /scannow results.
    Did you do this:-
    Try3 said:
    You ran SFC {Option 3} and then ran the Dism command identified in the notes at the end of Option 3 whilst connected, as it says, to the internet?

    Since the Repair install fails to operate as normal, perhaps you need to consider:-
    Try3 said:
    Would you mind stating why you have remained on Version 1909?
    - It might be for a reason that can dealt with and allow you to update.
    - Your current problem running a Repair install might not occur if updating to a later Version.


    Denis
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  3. Posts : 35
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Verson 1909 build 18363.418
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Denis... Thanks for clarifyiing the version information for me. I do appreciate you pointing out the nuances in the version numbers that MS makes.

    As far as me running an older version of Windows 10, it is because of frustraton with the update feature in windows. When I first loaded Win 10, I thought the update feature was a great thing. My experience was very different and I became quite frustated with the feature as updates did not work, or caused issues with software, or machine crashes, or installed "features" that I did not need, nor want. So, when I discovered a version that worked for me and learned there were methods to stop the update process, I utilized them.

    Simply, v1909 works for me and I really don't need any more Windows 'features' that are in the later versions of Windows 10.

    That being said, I have no strong aversion to upgrading to a newer version if absolutely needed.

    I should point out that if I were to use the in-place update (repair) process with a later version of Windows 10 (say, 2004, or 21H2 or even 22H2) the option to keep all my files and programs is available to me. It is something I have not ruled out completely.

    Thanks for your assistance in trying to resolve my dillemna.

    C.
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  4. Posts : 16,781
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #14

    nitram said:
    That being said, I have no strong aversion to upgrading to a newer version if absolutely needed.
    I should point out that if I were to use the in-place update (repair) process with a later version of Windows 10 (say, 2004, or 21H2 or even 22H2) the option to keep all my files and programs is available to me. It is something I have not ruled out completely.
    Perhaps you could download the v22H2 ISO then work through as far as that final diagram you posted, the Choose what to keep dialog, just to see if it is a solution for your problem. You could always bail out at that point so you can take your time making your decision.

    Do note that your current OS Version is not supported. Security vulnerabilities in it are not patched.

    Do you have system images, copies of your own files and copies of / download links to the installation files for your applications?
    Do you have at least 20GB of free space on your OS drive?
    Are you certain that the ISO language is the same as the language you have installed? [I do not know if English & English international count as different in this respect.]


    Denis
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  5. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #15

    Simply, v1909 works for me and I really don't need any more Windows 'features' that are in the later versions of Windows 10.

    That being said, I have no strong aversion to upgrading to a newer version if absolutely needed.
    That is definitely the simplest option.

    If you create a full disk image of all your Windows partitions now, and then upgrade, you always have the option to get back to where you were.

    As I pointed out there have been cases where after a certain update had been applied, an in-place upgrade repair fails as you describe.

    If an upgrade appears feasible, that suggests, for example, you haven't modified something that makes the upgrade procedure impossible.

    MS gained a terrible reputation for bad updates/upgrades after 1903 around 1909/2004 but after that things have been quite painless. Win 10 is mature and end of life is 2025, so no more big changes are being made, meaning upgrades have almost no noticeable impact.

    I've never lost use of programs as a result of upgrading that I wasn't expecting (only 1 or 2 particular ones).

    In one case, I upgraded a PC directly from 1903 to 20H1 - I'd kept it on 1903 to skip the bad upgrades and for another reason at that time.
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  6. Posts : 35
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Verson 1909 build 18363.418
    Thread Starter
       #16

    Dalchina and Denis... Thank you both for your patience with me whilst I attempted to perform an in-place upgrade (repair) install in my PC.

    I revisited the SFC and DISM processes and found success! The earlier attempts failed as I erred in designating the correct drive where the ISO was mounted. DUH!!!! Once I corrected my error, DISM repaired the corrupted files and upon running SFC again a few times - everything was ok.... see attachment.

    Unable to keep all programs and files using repair install method.-sfc-after-dism.png

    Since windows was repaired successfully, I attempted to use the in-place upgrade (repair) oned more time. NO Joy!. I could not keep all my files and programs as before.

    Denis, I did download the most current ISO from WZT and attempted to use the in-place upgrade with it. Success! I did get the option to keep all my files and programs with that version.

    I agree with you both that the most painless option would be to upgrade to a later version.

    The question I have at this point is: Can I upgrade directly to v22H2 from v1909? Or do I need to go incrementally?

    Thank you both for your assistance with this.

    C.
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  7. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #17

    If you read my post, I gave you an example where I upgraded directly from 1903 to 20H1.

    So you can upgrade to the current build- you will probably have a couple or so updates afterwards to do.

    Indeed, if you were to upgrade via Windows Update, you would expect to go directly to 22H2.

    And again, whilst you have repaired Windows at its current build, I have, if you noticed, cited cases where a particular update precluded an in-polace upgrade repair because of a bug. This might be so in your case.
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  8. Posts : 35
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Verson 1909 build 18363.418
    Thread Starter
       #18

    Dalchina... I did notice your statements about upgrading and about the possibility of a certain update might have interferred with the ability to use the in-place upgrade.

    I guess the only way to know if the in-place upgrade to 22H2 will work is to try. I will ponder that for a bit. I will certainly make sure that I have Macrium images saved before attempting any upgrade.

    Thank you again for your assistance.

    C.
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  9. Posts : 16,781
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #19

    C,

    nitram said:
    I revisited the SFC and DISM processes and found success! The earlier attempts failed as I erred in designating the correct drive where the ISO was mounted.
    Just for info, note that the Dism command suggested in the SFC procedure [Option 3, End notes] does not need any ISO location to be specified. It uses WU to search for components online instead.
    - I do not know of anybody who has tested that for out-of-support versions though.


    nitram said:
    I did download the most current ISO from WZT and attempted to use the in-place upgrade with it. Success! I did get the option to keep all my files and programs with that version.
    The question I have at this point is: Can I upgrade directly to v22H2 from v1909? Or do I need to go incrementally?
    Directly.


    nitram said:
    I guess the only way to know if the in-place upgrade to 22H2 will work is to try.
    The only computers I have noticed being reported as unable to install Version updates have been those of the age of my 2005 Dell Inspiron 9300.
    I don't see any reason to expect problems in your case.
    And the interim result, "I did get the option to keep all my files and programs with that version.", gives grounds for optimism.


    nitram said:
    I will certainly make sure that I have Macrium images saved before attempting any upgrade.
    Yes.


    Best of luck,
    Denis
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