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  1. Posts : 2,191
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #111

    lewscaart said:
    To Megahertz
    I don't have to re-install win7 because (thank goodness)it is still on my 6year old Acer PC with an i7 CPU. Its replacement, another
    Acer with Win 10 that was installed on an SSD(which since then Win10 lost), I finished installing, but it is still a work in progress.
    I tried to send an email with two attached documents. I spent TWO HOURS while win 10 kept looking for the scanned documents, it still wasn't where win10 said it filed it "scanned documents". It wasn't found by file explorer.
    I finally moved my scanner to my old Win 7 PC, and had everything done in 6 minutes. As far as I am concerned (and a great many other user agree), WINDOWS 10 was not an "improvement" but more like one step forward and five steps back.
    I don't think you are giving Windows 10 a fair chance. Sure it is a lot different than Windows 7 but it was also that way when I upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 7. Once I got used to Windows 7 it was strange to use Windows XP. When I got used to Windows 10 it was strange when I used a computer with Windows 7 or XP. In any case I was I was glad when I made my main computers Windows 10. I still have computers with Windows XP or 7 but they are not used much anymore.

    The best way to get used to Windows 10 is just install it and make a decision to learn to use it. That doesn't prevent you from dual-booting the computer with 7 and 10 or having another computer with only Windows 7.

    What printer/scanner do you have and how old is it? I have an HP OfficeJet Pro 6975 printer/scanner I bought in 2018. It works the same in Windows 7, 10, and 11. When I scan with it, it asks where I want to save the scan I choose where to save the file. The default is the Documents folder.

    In one post you mentioned a problem burning a DVD. If so you could try the free program CDBurnerXP. CDBurnerXP works with Windows 2000/XP/Win7/Win8/Win10.

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    When Windows 11 came out in late 2021 I had no plans to start using it. I changed my mind in late 2022 when I bought a new laptop with Windows 11. I then made a decision to stick with it and learn to use it. By late 2023 I made a decision to upgrade my main desktop to Windows 11. Using Windows 11 on my laptop helped me make the decision for my desktop.

    Note both my main laptop and main desktop are fully compatible with Windows 11 so it was no big deal to use it with them. My other older laptop and two desktops with Windows 10 will most likely stay that way. These desktops are dual boot with Windows 7 and 10. What helps is that they are both old enough to drivers for both Windows 7 and 10.
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  2. Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       #112

    Mister Ed,
    I finally found out what makes win 10 insufferable: it is the updates. When Microsoft sends updates to your PC, it makes it
    for all intents and purposes dead. I finally put a pause on disable(cannot disable it I fear), but it is still awkward.
    I am thinking dual booting with win 7, which, even with an old i72600 is quicker in some applications. I suspect it is due to the overhead(apps I will never wish to use). Sadly as my 16 year old Vista has a 32 bit hard drive, I don't think I can do that as well.
    The odd thing is that the home network, which Wpn10 did not see for almost a month, is working now, WITHOUT ME DOING ANYTHING TO IT!!! In some way Vista , which I used to curse at for 3-4 years, now is perfect, I had no problems or trojans for five- six years. I thank you again for your advice you volunteered, but I will never have Windows 11, I want NO INTERFERENCE in my
    work and privacy.
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  3. Posts : 2,191
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #113

    lewscaart said:
    Mister Ed,
    I finally found out what makes win 10 insufferable: it is the updates. When Microsoft sends updates to your PC, it makes it
    for all intents and purposes dead. I finally put a pause on disable(cannot disable it I fear), but it is still awkward.
    I am thinking dual booting with win 7, which, even with an old i72600 is quicker in some applications. I suspect it is due to the overhead(apps I will never wish to use). Sadly as my 16 year old Vista has a 32 bit hard drive, I don't think I can do that as well.
    The odd thing is that the home network, which Wpn10 did not see for almost a month, is working now, WITHOUT ME DOING ANYTHING TO IT!!! In some way Vista , which I used to curse at for 3-4 years, now is perfect, I had no problems or trojans for five- six years. I thank you again for your advice you volunteered, but I will never have Windows 11, I want NO INTERFERENCE in my
    work and privacy.
    To help with updates I suggest you try this...
    If you are not going to use your computer for a a few hours or it is the end of the day go to:
    Settings > Windows Update & Security
    Click on Check for updates
    After the updates are done and you have enough time do this again until there are no more updates to be found.

    If you do this one or more times per week then that should take care of most of your updates so that your computer is not checking for updates at the beginning of the day when you want to use it.
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    Windows 10 works well on most computers that are less than 9 years old. It will run on many older computers but may be slow on them compared to Windows 7. Of course that is only on average. If the computer is faster than average that will make a big difference in this. It is up to you to determine if Windows 10 runs fast enough.

    I have two older desktops (2010 & 2013) which I had upgraded from Windows 7 to 10. I thought they were sluggish so didn't use them much anymore. However, after I replaced the boot hard drives with SSDs that made a big difference. They not only booted faster but were also faster at the desktop. BTW, after I upgraded them I installed Windows 7 on them again on a second drive. Now they are dual boot with Windows 7 and 10.

    BTW, both these computers originally had Windows 7 32-bit and 4GB RAM. After I upgraded the RAM to 8GB I reinstalled with Windows 7 64-bits. I then upgraded to Windows 10 64-bits. Most users should be OK with 8GB RAM for Windows 7 or 10 64-bits. If you need more you can upgrade to either 16GB or 32GB.
    Last edited by MisterEd; 12 Mar 2024 at 22:22.
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  4. Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       #114

    Hi again,
    My Win7 PC has 16GB of pretty sat memory, but can only use 8GB of that. Still it boots up twice as fast as the Win10 PC with a much quicker CPU AND 32 GB of RAM. That's with the auto-updates turned off until April. Anyway I am glad that I didn't install Win10 on my Win7 box. It also has a pretty fast 1.5 TB HDD. The original Win10 was installed on the 1TB SSD, still it makes no noticeable difference. I am trying to figure out how to preserve the 15 years' worth of data on my old Vista PC that uses an old
    AMD CPU that I overclocked to 4.5 GH. It ran faster than the Intel i72600 in some applications, and booted instantly in a nanosecond. Thanks again, and good luck.
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  5. Posts : 15,485
    Windows10
       #115

    lewscaart said:
    Hi again,
    My Win7 PC has 16GB of pretty sat memory, but can only use 8GB of that. Still it boots up twice as fast as the Win10 PC with a much quicker CPU AND 32 GB of RAM. That's with the auto-updates turned off until April. Anyway I am glad that I didn't install Win10 on my Win7 box. It also has a pretty fast 1.5 TB HDD. The original Win10 was installed on the 1TB SSD, still it makes no noticeable difference. I am trying to figure out how to preserve the 15 years' worth of data on my old Vista PC that uses an old
    AMD CPU that I overclocked to 4.5 GH. It ran faster than the Intel i72600 in some applications, and booted instantly in a nanosecond. Thanks again, and good luck.
    Join a Bot network for free.

    Updates are there for a reason LOL.
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  6. Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       #116

    I agree, there must be a reason for updates BUT why cant the users of WIN 10 opt out of the updates? What if my anti-virous app is much better than Microsoft's? I don't like to be dictated by any organization.
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  7. Posts : 4,187
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #117

    lewscaart said:
    I agree, there must be a reason for updates BUT why cant the users of WIN 10 opt out of the updates? What if my anti-virous app is much better than Microsoft's? I don't like to be dictated by any organization.
    The problem with that is that if your system becomes infected it can be used to attack other people, either via targeted malware, denial of service attacks, etc. In my opinion, updates should be forced upon systems because far too many people would not be responsible enough to do it themselves either because they are simply too busy to do it manually, or maybe it simply slips their minds, etc.

    Put another way, if you have a computer that accesses the Internet, you should not be allowed to be irresponsible and put other people at risk.
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  8. Posts : 1,211
    Windows 10
       #118

    Scared to walk out the front door in case you get hit by a car analogy.

    I disagree,

    The outside WAN called the internet we are all connected to is a dangerous place by right to begin with. No one would connect to that if they truly cared about security but everyday we all still connect to it freely because the pros outweigh the cons.

    I don't care about my neighbors issues only mine. Forced updates is pigeon holing we as consumers want to make our own informed decisions.

    I keep up to date of course but that is a conscious decision to do that still and i should still be able to discern whether or not i want to update at any given time.

    Safety is a mitigation process its why we tie several areas together to protect ourselves. We cannot control others on the WAN, well some people can but you know what i mean. Mitigate, worry and protect you instead of worrying about the billions of other user connected online.
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  9. Posts : 2,191
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #119

    lewscaart said:
    I agree, there must be a reason for updates BUT why cant the users of WIN 10 opt out of the updates? What if my anti-virous app is much better than Microsoft's? I don't like to be dictated by any organization.
    Not a good analogy. There is nothing to keep you from installing your own anti-virus and disabling Microsoft's. You forget that at one time Windows didn't even come with an anti-virus program. Unless you installed your own you were subject to getting all kinds of viruses and malware. If you want to criticize Microsoft then criticize them for not including an anti-virus program with Windows sooner.
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