Update from old laptop to new


  1. Posts : 86
    windows 10
       #1

    Update from old laptop to new


    My wife is getting a new Lenovo Ideapad 3 in about a weeks time. It has Win 10 (likely Home) installed. Her present laptop is an older Toshiba that also has Win 10 Home installed.

    To keep her happy, I will need to make her new laptop look and work like the old one!

    - Her documents are stored on Dropbox, so I presume I need to install Dropbox and those will then be available.
    - Her emails are on Thunderbird. She has a Gmail account that uses IMAP. I presume I need to install T-Bird and set up account. Hopefully it will then update her folders?
    - She has a Microsoft account, but doesn't use it for anything.
    - Some files and photos are likely stored on laptop. Probably just copy those over?
    - Some programs & games I will have to re-install. (She plays Bridge & Scrabble on-line)
    - Printer drivers? Old HP Deskjet - do I just plug into usb ports and then the drivers get installed?
    - Same for Mouse & external keyboard she likes.

    How about Desktop layout and any other settings. Do I just copy her user file over? Or is there a utility like we used to have on Vista and Win 7 to do the transfer?

    Sorry for the jumbled post. Just trying to make a plan. I am sure many have to do this when they get a new computer. Just been a while for us. If this is covered here, please show me where (I have looked!)

    Thanks

    PS: I don't have the new windows 10 version number yet and I still need to get the one of her laptop.
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  2. Posts : 4,453
    Win 11 Pro 22000.708
       #2

    One tip:

    If she has a lot of emails in Thunderbird, I suggest doing the following:

    First, make sure that Show Hidden Files, Folders, and Drives is turned on the the View tab of the File Explorer Options control panel.

    Copy C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles (Substitute her username for <user>).

    Install Thunderbird on the new machine.

    Copy the contents of the two folders in Profiles into their matching folders in the new Thunderbird installation. Don't copy the folders, just their contents. (Thunderbird creates two folder in Profile with what appear to be random names. You can't replace the folders with the old ones, but you can replace their contents. If you get any messages about duplicate files, choose to overwrite.)

    When you launch Thunderbird, you should have the accounts, files, and contacts from the old machine. I don't know about filters.

    I find that convenient, because I have over 12GB of stuff in Profiles. You could just install Thunderbird and set up the accounts again. An Imap account would update in time. If she has any where near as much stuff in email as I do, that would be a long time, regardless of the speed of your Internet connection. I use Gmail, and their servers apparently won't produce data at high rates.
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  3. Posts : 18,426
    Windows 11 Pro
       #3

    So....why not take an image of Windows 10 from the old laptop and install it on the new laptop?
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  4. Posts : 43,106
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    There is no easy way to do that manually.

    If the existing laptop's Windows is UEFI (rather than legacy MBR / BIOS) then what NavyLCDR suggests is very much the easiest, quickest and least complicated option.

    Hopefully disk imaging is already being routinely used (e.g. Macrium Reflect - free, image files to external disk) - endlessly recommended here. A very valuable method of ensuring you have a full backup so you're safe even if the system disk fails, PC is unbootable, stolen...

    All you then have to do is to connect the external disk with the image file containing an image of all O/S partitions from the old device to the new PC, boot that from a flash drive created as MR's bootable medium, and restore the partitions to the new PC.

    Windows should reconfigure its drivers, and you can download any particular manufacturer-specific drivers if there are any afterwards.

    Alternatively you would
    - remove any trialware from the new PC, or clean install Win 10
    - use a program such as Laplink PCMover or Easeus Todo PCTrans to migrate user profile and installed programs (one-off license fee). The best way to do that is to use a disk image of the old PC as source on a disk connected to the new PC.

    Either way you would need to create a disk image of the old PC.
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  5. Posts : 2,800
    Windows 7 Pro
       #5

    I wonder why nearly no one ever suggest to use the USMT ?

    Install all needed applications, then use the User State Migration Tool (USMT) for windows 10,

    It's not the easiest to use, but once you get it... You will not lose a single setting.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win.../usmt-overview

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...migration-tool
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  6. Posts : 86
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    NavyLCDR said:
    So....why not take an image of Windows 10 from the old laptop and install it on the new laptop?
    I am a bit wary of doing that. Her Toshiba was mine and has been updated through several windows versions and is at least 14 yrs old. It uses AMD processor. Definitely a Legacy unit! I had a lot of problems getting it working when first installing Win10 in about 2018. It has worked fine since then.

    Using the already installed new fresh W10 install seems like a better place to start and eventually use to update to Win11.

    I found this site on-line. Does using File History seem like a reasonable approach?

    How to Transfer Your Files to Windows 10 - dummies

    I don't think she has that much in way of emails stored, so should not have a big problem with T-Bird.

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    dalchina said:
    Alternatively you would
    - remove any trialware from the new PC, or clean install Win 10
    - use a program such as Laplink PCMover or Easeus Todo PCTrans to migrate user profile and installed programs (one-off license fee). The best way to do that is to use a disk image of the old PC as source on a disk connected to the new PC.
    Either way you would need to create a disk image of the old PC.
    Is PCMover able to find and move the files from a disk image?
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  7. Posts : 43,106
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    Yes, it can, according to this page.

    I have done a bit of searching for you with Google.
    This is what I found for you:
    PCmover Image & Drive Assistant – Laplink(R)


    Now, you can restore the image of an old Windows® PC (or old hard drive) to a new PC that has a different Windows operating system. All programs, files and settings are restored to the new PC without overwriting anything on the new PC, including the operating system. Even your programs are restored intact and ready to use! Without PCmover Image & Drive Assistant, an image from your old PC won’t help you selectively restore to a new Windows 10 PC. Imaging products on the market today are only able to restore an entire image, which includes the operating system.
    I did this some years ago.

    Want to know more? You can ask them:
    Contact us | Laplink(R)
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  8. Posts : 31,760
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #8

    agent99 said:
    My wife is getting a new Lenovo Ideapad 3 in about a weeks time. It has Win 10 (likely Home) installed. Her present laptop is an older Toshiba that also has Win 10 Home installed.
    NavyLCDR said:
    So....why not take an image of Windows 10 from the old laptop and install it on the new laptop?
    dalchina said:
    There is no easy way to do that manually.
    If the existing laptop's Windows is UEFI (rather than legacy MBR / BIOS) then what NavyLCDR suggests is very much the easiest, quickest and least complicated option...

    Hopefully disk imaging is already being routinely used ... All you then have to do is to connect the external disk with the image file containing an image of all O/S partitions from the old device to the new PC, boot that from a flash drive created as MR's bootable medium, and restore the partitions to the new PC.
    Even if the old PC is Legacy/MBR and the new one is UEFI/GPT it's still possible to restore the a Macrium image of the old OS to the new PC providing it is a 64-bit Windows install.

    I have recently done just that. First you have to clean install the same version of W10 to create all the required EFI boot partitions, etc. Then restore JUST the C: partition from the image of the old PC to replace the C: partition created by the clean install. You then need to use Macrium's 'Fix Windows boot problems' tool to recreate the BCD table.
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  9. Posts : 86
    windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Got the upgrade done


    Yesterday wife got her new Lenovo IdeaPad L3 15ITL6. What I found out during initial startup, was that Lenovo had what they call Lenovo Migration Assistant. This it seems in is in partnership with Dropbox. I just ran this utility, chose what we wanted transferred and it got it done. This was using wifi with both computers logged into the same network. The old computer wasn't a Lenovo. Got everything transferred in about 30min. Then installed a few applications and she was on-line!

    I could have done this just with Dropbox, I guess. But she only had 2Gb of Dropbox storage and I thought that might not have worked. I see that they do offer 30GB free for 30 days, so I suppose that would have been another way to go.

    Lenovo Link:
    https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht509248-lenovo-migration-assistant-lma-helps-moves-files-and-ease-the-setup-of-your-new-pc

    Dropbox Link:
    https://help.dropbox.com/installs-integrations/third-party/move-files-to-new-computer

    By the way, the new Lenovo had a free upgrade to Windows 11. Not having any experience with Win11, I opted to stay with Win 10 for now. My Lenovo Thinkpad T520 doesn't qualify for the update, it seems.
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