Two Computers Show Both Activated With Same Key

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    Windows 10 Pro. Version 10.0.19045 Build 19045
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    Two Computers Show Both Activated With Same Key


    I have a Seven year old Toshiba laptop that came with OEM 8.1 installed. Sometime after, I bought a Pro upgrade key online from Microsoft. The laptop is seldom used nowadays but I keep it updated. It has Windows 10 Pro on it now.

    My main laptop is a Asus, which has Windows 10 OEM Home on it. I had just created a Macrium Reflect backup of the C drive so I thought I would see what would happen if I tried to change the product key to the Pro upgrade key, that was used on the Toshiba. Both laptops are linked to my Microsoft account.

    To my suprise, the key was accepted and the Asus upgraded to Pro. In my Microsoft account, both laptops now show Windows 10 Pro. I ran the program "Product Key" on both laptops and both show the same key.

    To the best of my knowledge, after reading many articles on this forum, the key should not have been accepted on the Asus. Am I correct in asuming that the "key" is linked to the hardware on the Toshiba? If so, what the heck is happening!

    Is this a glitch? What will happen once I go online with the Toshiba?
    I prefer to keep the Pro on the Asus. Is there anything I can do to the Toshiba, to avoid a conflict arising?

    I would wish to avoid doing something to the Toshiba, like removing the Pro and then later on, find the Asus refuse the Pro key and I am left with no Pro at all.
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  2. Posts : 2,141
    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
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    It seems to be that MS aren't really caring about this. Been in similar situation - old computer, deactivated and uninstalled Win 10 key, remove the HDD. Used the key to activate (successfully) another installation.

    Was going to dispose of the original device but found that using an SSD smartened it up no end, so re-installed Win 10 (would run unactivated). Connected the internet >>> activated !!! Now both devices run with the same key.

    Like you, my intention was to do the right thing, but if Microsoft won't let me ....Meh !!

    EDIT : Neither device has a MS account, both local accounts.
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  3. Posts : 181
    Windows 10 Pro. Version 10.0.19045 Build 19045
    Thread Starter
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    @idgat

    How long ago was that?
    I might end up with Windows 11 Pro :)

    EDIT: I have just noticed that the key both laptops show is listed on the Internet as a "generic key".
    The more I read up on this matter, the more confused I get as there is a heap of conflicting opinion about it.
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  4. Posts : 31,659
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    idgat said:
    ....old computer, deactivated and uninstalled Win 10 key, remove the HDD. Used the key to activate (successfully) another installation.

    Retail keys are transferable provided you remove Windows from the old machine, it's in the EULA.

    Was going to dispose of the original device but found that using an SSD smartened it up no end, so re-installed Win 10 (would run unactivated). Connected the internet >>> activated !!! Now both devices run with the same key.
    Are you sure the reinstall has the same key? A clean install, skipping entering a key when asked, will install using the generic key. A generic key will only activate if the PC has a digital licence linked to its hardware ID and stored on the Microsoft activation servers.

    There is no way to remove a digital licence that's linked to a hardware ID. Once the PC has got one it will always activate a clean install. You can follow the EULA to the letter and completely wipe a PC before selling it on or breaking it for spares, then legitimately use your retail key to activate a new build. But if the new owner were to clean install the same edition of W10 then it will activate from the digital licence. There are reported cases of TF members who bought a second hand motherboard, only to find it had an existing digital licence.
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  5. Posts : 2,550
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       #5

    My laptop shows the generic Win 10 Pro key even though I used a genuine Win 8 Pro key to upgrade to Pro.
    If the devices are showing a generic key then it’s normal.
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    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    theoldfarter said:
    ...the key both laptops show is listed on the Internet as a "generic key".
    The more I read up on this matter, the more confused I get as there is a heap of conflicting opinion about it.

    It's really quite simple. The generic key will be used if you clean install Windows 10 without providing a key, or it you upgrade from an activated Windows 7 or 8 to 10. A generic key cannot activate windows 10, but if the PC has previously had the same edition of 10 (Home or Pro) installed and activated, then that is recorded on Microsoft's activation servers and linked to the unique hardware ID of the PC. A digital licence will be created when you upgrade from an activated W7/W8.

    An install with a generic key will activate only if there's an existing digital licence for the edition you installed on the MS activation servers. No digital licence means an unactivated install, you will need to enter a valid W7, W8 or W10 key to activated it. After that the PC will have a digital licence on the activation servers and you can clean install without entering a key.
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  7. Posts : 181
    Windows 10 Pro. Version 10.0.19045 Build 19045
    Thread Starter
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    I now realise that the key I entered into the Asus, is a generic key. I remember reading something about if you do that, you have a period of time (3 weeks?) to enter a Retail Pro Key or it will revert back to Home. Is that what will happen?
    @Bree

    This Asus came with Windows 10 Home OEM. With what you have written, do you know why it is showing as activated with Pro?
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    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    theoldfarter said:
    I now realise that the key I entered into the Asus, is a generic key. I remember reading something about if you do that, you have a period of time (3 weeks?) to enter a Retail Pro Key or it will revert back to Home. Is that what will happen?
    If you try to change your installed key to the generic Pro key while your Win 10 Home is connected to the internet, then Windows will check the activation servers for a digital licence for Pro. If your PC already has one, then you will upgrade to an activated W10 Pro. If there is no digital licence for Pro then you will not be allowed to upgrade to Pro.

    If you change to the Pro key while not connected to the internet then Windows will upgrade Home to Pro regardless of whether you have a digital licence for Pro or not. When you next connect to the interned your Win 10 Pro will check for a digital licence, if one exits your Pro will activate, if not it will be unactivated. To activate it you will have to use a legitimate W7/8/10 Pro key. The same applies if you do a clean install of W10 Pro - no existing digital licence meand it won't activate.

    Pro cannot downgrade to Home, if yours is activated now it will stay activated. If it is not activated Pro will remain installed and continue to work, but with some restrictions (mainly in personalisation) there's no time limit.
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  9. Posts : 31,659
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    theoldfarter said:
    This Asus came with Windows 10 Home OEM. With what you have written, do you know why it is showing as activated with Pro?
    Look in Settings > Update & Security > Activation. If you see this....

    Two Computers Show Both Activated With Same Key-image.png

    ...then your 10 Pro is activated and will remain so. Have you had the Asus from new? If not it's possible someone may have installed Pro then 'factory reset' it back to Home before selling it. If you have had it from new and your W10 Pro says 'activated' then it may be that the activation servers have made an error, but once a digital licence has been given to a PC the activation servers cannot revoke it. It's yours to keep.

    If it's not activated then you have a choice. Either activate it by entering a valid Pro key for W7, 8 or 10 (even a W7 key from the CoA an old PC that you no longer use will do), Clean install Home, or follow Brink's tutorial to downgrade from Pro to Home.

    Downgrade from Windows 10 Pro to Windows 10 Home
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  10. Posts : 181
    Windows 10 Pro. Version 10.0.19045 Build 19045
    Thread Starter
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    It is showing "Windows is activated with a digital licence linked to your Microsoft account".
    This Asus was brand new when I bought it in June 2020.

    A few months after I bought it, problems happened and it went to an Asus repair agent, who replaced the Motherboard, The agent said that they "injected" Windows 10 onto the new Motherboard. I wonder if it was a Pro injection?

    When it was returned to me, I formatted the drive and did a fresh install through the Media Creation Tool. I never checked to see if it was activated before I did, just assuming that it was. I chose Home as that what was on it when I bought it.

    It is all conjecture but it somehow makes sense of what has happened as to why it accepted the update to Pro.

    As an aside, it turned out not to be a faulty Motherboard as I still had the same problems after the return, but before I could contact Asus about it, Asus released an updated BIOS, fixing their stuffup of the previous one I had updated to.

    It has been running fine for ages now.
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